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Frogging · 02-05-2025, 06:36 PM

Hi I'm Frank new to the site. I bought a Safari Sagittarius 34ft motorcoach for $800.00 + $50.00 for complete cover, 40 x 40 tarp and a lot of other stuff. Needs lots of work. The person I bought it from said they put gas in it and drove it for about for days then parked it where it is now. Said it drove fine, now it got broke into and I have to replace the whole column cause the busted out the ignition. So I can't start it. Can someone tell me what the top of the diesel engine looks like.

Argosy · 02-05-2025, 07:21 PM

Safari Serengeti? What engine?

SafariBen · 02-05-2025, 08:15 PM

Sure that's not a 1970 Sagittarius?
Looks like that would be a Detroit 8.2 fuel pincher if it's a diesel. Also known as Hate point two. Run Forrest, RUN. That's the engine Detroit wants to forget. Could be fine if you never go far or fast, but not something I'd buy not running. Removing the ignition could be a trick to sell it easier. I can't believe you can't start it by hotwiring the ignition, I doubt there's a computer, certainly no security or chip key.

The 8.2 is a V8 so will look similar to a gas engine, but won't have spark plugs or spark plug wires. The valve cover should say "fuel pincher".

Frogging · 02-06-2025, 12:39 AM

I don't know how to hot wire it. I tried to put up pictures but says they can't load. I'll login to my home computer and see if I can load them from there.

George Schweikle · 02-06-2025, 08:20 AM

Maybe you have a Serengeti?. No Sagittarius here:

Google search, and Safari club Safari Motorcoach Corporation models:

Panther -----(40 to 42 ft.) Tag Axle, full air brakes, CAT C12, Roadmaster S-series chassis (after 2000)
Zanzibar ---- (35 to 39 ft) full air brakes, Cummins ISL, Roadmaster M4R chassis (2003)
Serengeti --- (37 to 40 ft)
Sahara ------- (30 to 35 ft) Roadmaster M4R chassis after 2000
Gazelle -------(Roadmaster RR8S chassis after 2000)
Cheetah ------(Roadmaster RR4R chassis or RR8R after 2000)
Simba RD ----(Roadmaster RR4R chassis after 2000)Panther
Cheetah ------(Roadmaster RR4R chassis or RR8R after 2000)
Simba RD ----(Roadmaster RR4R chassis after 2000)
Kalahari
Trek-----------(Smaller coach 1991 to 2006)

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Originally Posted by Frogging

Hi I'm Frank new to the site. I bought a Safari Sagittarius 34ft motorcoach for $800.00 + $50.00 for complete cover, 40 x 40 tarp and a lot of other stuff. Needs lots of work. The person I bought it from said they put gas in it and drove it for about for days then parked it where it is now. Said it drove fine, now it got broke into and I have to replace the whole column cause the busted out the ignition. So I can't start it. Can someone tell me what the top of the diesel engine looks like.

d23haynes57 · 02-06-2025, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Frogging

I don't know how to hot wire it. I tried to put up pictures but says they can't load. I'll login to my home computer and see if I can load them from there.

Maybe this project is not for you!

SafariBen · 02-06-2025, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by d23haynes57

Maybe this project is not for you!

Sometimes you just have to know when to say NO. The ignition in my 95 Safari is the same as an early 70's GM pickup, which is electrically the same as every car, pickup, lawnmower or boat from 1950 until they added security in the 90's. Battery, accessories, ignition, and start. Connect appropriately to start and run, radio is usually optional.

Frogging · 02-06-2025, 06:39 PM

Yes it is a 1990 Safari Serengeti, sorry don't know why Google changed it not once but every time. It just did it again here but I changed it back.

George Schweikle · 02-07-2025, 08:42 AM

Google can have a mind of its own

. However, use it to find one of the Safari clubs that might have the information you need.

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Originally Posted by Frogging

Yes it is a 1990 Safari Serengeti, sorry don't know why Google changed it not once but every time. It just did it again here but I changed it back.

Frogging · 02-10-2025, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by George Schweikle

Maybe you have a Serengeti?. No Sagittarius here:

Google search, and Safari club Safari Motorcoach Corporation models:

Panther -----(40 to 42 ft.) Tag Axle, full air brakes, CAT C12, Roadmaster S-series chassis (after 2000)
Zanzibar ---- (35 to 39 ft) full air brakes, Cummins ISL, Roadmaster M4R chassis (2003)
Serengeti --- (37 to 40 ft)
Sahara ------- (30 to 35 ft) Roadmaster M4R chassis after 2000
Gazelle -------(Roadmaster RR8S chassis after 2000)
Cheetah ------(Roadmaster RR4R chassis or RR8R after 2000)
Simba RD ----(Roadmaster RR4R chassis after 2000)Panther
Cheetah ------(Roadmaster RR4R chassis or RR8R after 2000)
Simba RD ----(Roadmaster RR4R chassis after 2000)
Kalahari
Trek-----------(Smaller coach 1991 to 2006)

Serengeti yes if it is 37 ft or more does that mean I have to get a CDL to drive it. Or pull my 2012 Subaru Forester behind it. Yes I know cause it's a automatic I have to have it on a flat bed.