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Old 12-30-2020, 06:39 PM   #29
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A U2 song? No, sorry, sorry.

Never minding all the discussion, all anybody really wants is you to find out why you RV won't start reliably.
An issue seems to be that Ford built starting systems for coaches like yours in two configurations and considering that you seem to be in unfamiliar waters here, we'd prefer not to steer you wrong. Well, I wouldn't.
If the diagram linked to is valid for your coach than you would not have a big bolty looking relay like I pictured and would instead have a very much smaller 20 amps style relay in your fuse box along with some other relays just like it. If that be the case you can swap it with another relay like the horn or something as a very simple way to find out of it is good. They don't fail very often, it's usually something else.

subford might have a diagram of the fusebox to help you locate the relay, he's a goldmine of such information. I have diagrams but only for the F-series trucks, they may be the same but I don't in fact know that.

I guess you know a repair shop could probably suss out the problem in short order. A couple of problems with that though. First, you would miss out on no learning a bit about your coach and maybe engines in general. And second, there tend to be two kinds of shops. First will find out what is wrong, however long it takes. The second will say "Oh it's your starter" or battery, or something. Then they replace that component and if they guessed right everybody's happy. If they guess wrong, they charge you for whatever they did and start figuring out how to charge you for now finding out what the problem actually is. From outside it can be VERY hard to tell these shops apart. And even inside the shop there can be both types of employees. It's a gamble. But the more you learn about such systems the less shop type #2 can BS you into to overpaying for their lack of competence.
So I feel that if you have the time and energy to continue pursuing this issue on your own it might be worth your while.
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Old 01-01-2021, 09:28 AM   #30
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The owner's manual says fuse position 7 is for the starter relay coil but that's just a mini 15 amp fuse which is in the bottom row of mini fuses third one.
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Old 01-01-2021, 10:40 AM   #31
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That's it, #7, 15 amp. It'll only have 12 volts when the ignition switch is in the start position.

The relay is NOT in there. It's where it is in the picture I posted. It looks just like the picture GypsyR posted.

(There's a wiring diagram in the thread I linked that shows where the fuse is in the circuit.)
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Did you replace the connector at the battery you said was broken? That needs to be done before you do any more trouble shooting. Might as well clean both battery terminals and the other cable clamp at the same time. There are terminal brushes that make the job easy, go easy on the battery terminal, it peels the metal off quickly.
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Did you replace the connector at the battery you said was broken? That needs to be done before you do any more trouble shooting. Might as well clean both battery terminals and the other cable clamp at the same time. There are terminal brushes that make the job easy, go easy on the battery terminal, it peels the metal off quickly.



Not sure if one terminal is actually broken. This is how both posts look connected.
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Found it !!! behind a metal panel
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Progress. Is that where your "click" is?
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Progress. Is that where your "click" is?







Ran out of daylight before i could do that part....lol, But i have all day tomorrow
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The connector in the first picture isn't fully seated. If you look at the space where it compresses to clamp on the terminal there isn't much but that could be because it isn't fully seated. From what's visible inside, the light powder on the top of the post and below on the battery case it looks like it should be cleaned.

The second picture of the battery terminals looks real shaky. The positive battery terminal is larger than the negative. I don't know which battery terminal that actually is but it's got a small brad/nail/pin between the connector and terminal. That's a cobble for a connector that's stretched past it's useful life or on the wrong terminal. OK to get you home, but not a long term fix.


When you see electrical maintained like that the best thing to do is take it apart, clean it up and put it together right.
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Talking

SUCCESS!!!


She starts!!!... I finally had time to pick up an new starter relay. Neighbor helped walk me through the repair. I sat up in the wheel well, while was helping hand me different tools. Thank you for all the posts and help.
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