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Old 01-08-2016, 07:27 AM   #15
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As has been said..there is nothing at all wrong with the engine. Replace the modulator valve and go on down the road.
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Old 01-08-2016, 08:33 AM   #16
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Nickb and Bobby have hit the nail on the head! Listen to them, and not to the shop that is trying to rip you off! A name of that shop would help the rest of this forum know not to ever stop there! Scoundrel's!!! Rail!
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Old 01-08-2016, 08:47 AM   #17
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X2 on listening to Bobby and Nickb, they are giving you sound advise. A small score in the cylinder wall is not unusual( it is usually just a very fine scratch), it is caused by a sharp edge on one of the rings. The oily plug would also come from the defective modulator. The crack in the bellhousing may or may not have been caused by the transmission shop, Check the motor mounts to see if you have a broken engine motor mount, the twisting can cause the bellhousing to crack.
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Old 01-08-2016, 12:24 PM   #18
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Faulty valve guide seals that i had blew a puff of "blue" smoke when i fired it up after sitting a bit
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Old 01-08-2016, 12:34 PM   #19
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Unless you have a catalytic converter expect to see a puff of smoke when starting off from a stop, such as at a stoplight. When you're stopped the high vacuum pressure in your intake manifold sucks oil down your valve guide past your failed valve seals. When you start off after the light changes all that oil's pulled into your combustion chamber and burned along with your gas/air mixture causing a puff of smoke at your exhaust pipe. However, if you have a cat it'll be burned up in the cat.

When you get home have someone follow you in a car, they'll see that smoke puff starting out from every stop.

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Old 01-08-2016, 02:52 PM   #20
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Ok update I did check the modulator an bam fluid in the line and the brand new modulater is leakin it into cly 6 and 8 onthe intake manifold .. just almost took the head apart glad I did not get far into that .. on my way to exhange the modulater an oil change fluids since I drained every thing already !
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:13 PM   #21
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Lots of shops will tell a person with an old car ,truck ,motorhome an outrageous price to make repairs in hope that they will go else where , nice way to tell you they don't want to work on it. Has happened to me and I bet it just happened to you, that's the price we pay for having to drive something old,no one wants us in their rv park or garage if our stuff is over 10 yrs old .Hope you get that baby going 84 HR was a well built motorhome .
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:49 PM   #22
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To make it worse this shop would have claimed bad replacement motor and charged you to do it TWICE!

There are two basic types of shops today considering workers not of the generation that serviced non EFI engines.

Those who know what they are doing and will do the work correctly for a good price as they know what they are doing and those who could not pick a quadrajet out of a lineup of one and only can do what the code reader shows.

Problem is a lot more of the second who act like the first.

They take your money and throw parts at it until maybe it works or you give up but need to pay the bill for their wrong guesses.

Had a smog cert back in the day and it is fun to observe some service folks...Ford dealer tried to convince my mom that she needed tires and was doing lots of arm twisting.

She stated only Costco provides her tires due to their service and price regardless of what ford tries to pitch, then tires suddenly good and not needing replacement...
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Whenever I take my car in for its annual safety/environmental inspection I tell the shop up front that while they'll get my sincere thanks for locating any problems, I'll be doing the repairs myself. Even then I had one shop try to talk me into an expensive power steering repair. When I checked it myself I found the problem was a leaking oil pressure sending unit on the motor that was dripping motor oil onto the power steering rack. I'm a lucky guy to be able to do my own repairs!

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Old 01-08-2016, 04:57 PM   #24
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I sure would give that shop a piece of my mind if I had some to spare just terrible dishonesty these days, all for more money
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Old 01-08-2016, 05:10 PM   #25
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Wasn't that easy checking that modulator line , and yes the line hooks up to the manifold right above the intake ports at cylinders 6 and 8 so they would get the bulk of the tranny fluid. Just try to remember that not all is as it seems when you have a shop work on your vehicle, and try to learn to diagnose problems as they come . You'll have a lot more fun that way! Good Luck , Bobby
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I got lazy a few years ago as I was very busy with my glass shop, I let a guy I kinda trusted work on the Dakota pickup as it would go 100 mph straight and making right turns , but stall out making left turns!!!!!!!??????????? He changed damn near everything , fuel pump , filters, distributor everything but what I suggested to him, I saw some people had trouble with the 2 oxygen sensors on that model. Well $1600.00 and having him open every harness on the engine and body , it had to be towed again! Now he wanted to put oxygen sensors in , told him to forget it , you couldn't figure it out with all you SnapOn electronic crap and 1 1/2 months time , skip it! Went home and changed both sensors and had no more problem! I also let him do a oil change on my old Mercedes TD diesel wagon, brought him the filters and told him I only ran Rotella 15-40 in it , he said fine , went to pick it up and started it up , it sounded like he threw marbles in it, he din't put rotella in it he put some Cam2 10-30 in it , took it home and drained it and put the Rotella in and it was fine. Then he tried to hit me with an additional bill for $646.00 after the fact, told him that wasn't happening! Learn what you can do and find someone you trust , but ask lots of questions even to the point of being annoying, LOL! Bobby
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Old 01-08-2016, 08:13 PM   #27
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In 2002 I traded in a 83 HR 454 with 100K miles. The dealer wanted a pressure check before they would give the offer to me on their trade in price.

The check showed 150# on all cylinders and the dealer was very happy.
And I have been happy ever since with my present MH.

OH!! I forgot to mention I put some of that thick honey stuff in the engine before I drove the 100 miles to their shop for the test.
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Old 01-10-2016, 08:21 PM   #28
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Waiting on OP for an update, nice to know there are people here that know a thing or two.

Hats off to Bobby and Nickb
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