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Old 09-25-2020, 03:21 PM   #1
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Led tail lights

Does anyone know where on the web I can find LED tail light upgrade for my 1999 Pace Arrow vision class A motor home?
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Old 09-25-2020, 07:23 PM   #2
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Without seeing a picture of your tail lights to confirm manufacturer ( I'M thinking Bargman ) if they look like those below .

There will be bulbs for sure and possibly full LED lights available .

If your lenses don't look like these , please post a photo.
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Old 09-25-2020, 10:58 PM   #4
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My lights look like what Skip426 pictured and I just used simple LED upgrade replacements for 1157 and 1156 bulbs.
Like these. https://www.superbrightleds.com/more...QaAhbsEALw_wcB

I messed around with some very much cheaper LED 1157's (on a motorcycle actually) and found that they weren't even as bright as the old school bulbs. So apparently you kind of get what you pay for.
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I changed my tail lights to LED and it affected the blinking rate of the turn signals.

Didn't want to mess around making a modification to correct the fast blinking so I put the originals back in.
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Without seeing a picture of your tail lights to confirm manufacturer ( I'M thinking Bargman ) if they look like those below .

There will be bulbs for sure and possibly full LED lights available .

If your lenses don't look like these , please post a photo.
trying to post a photo. If it does not go through my tail lights wrap around each side.
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There are several LEDs on the market but you will need to pull samples of your bulbs to compare the base of each kind. 1156 metal round base with single bayonet on bottom 2 side pins on the base directly across from each other. 1157 round metal base 2 bayonets on bottom 2 side pins on base one is higher than the other. T10 or sometimes called 921 these are most generally a completely glass light with 2 wires that go from the narrowing of the base over the bottom and up the other side of the base. You can put the T10 in and it doesn’t work, take it out turn it 180 degrees and it will work. There is also 3157 a multi functional light. The base slightlY resembles a T10 but has several wires on the base. All of these units are available in LED. When choosing a replacement be sure to check clearances at opening and depth between base and Lens. You may have to run diodes to get them to work properly, but not always. Hope this helps.
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I recently replaced the 1157 incandescent tail/brake light bulbs on my 2003 Georgetown. Click on Sylvania LED Bulbs. I first tried those but they were so dim you couldn't see 'em. I returned those and tried these:Bright Red LED Tail Lights.

They are very bright and work good. I think it is a good idea to get the RED bulbs. The white light bulbs are so bright they shine through the lens and make the light a pale red.

I did have a problem with one of the bulbs or maybe with the socket it was installed in. The solder contacts on the bottom of the bulb did not make good contact with the solder contacts in the socket. I took my soldering iron and built up the solder bumps on the bottom of the bulb and it works fine now.

The original equipment gaskets on the lenses fell apart. I bought this Gasket Material and made new ones.

I didn't have any problems with blink rate. I think our older motorhomes use a turn signal and emergency flasher that is insensitive to the load of the lenses.

Time will tell if the bulbs outlast me and the motorhome.
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I changed my tail lights to LED and it affected the blinking rate of the turn signals.

Didn't want to mess around making a modification to correct the fast blinking so I put the originals back in.
Change out the flasher to a light duty one.....Both my truck and trailer have been completely changed over to LED's, and headlights to projectors......
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They sell electronic flasher relays to replace the old mechanical ones if you have flasher rate issues. Simply yank to old one and stick a new one in. It will literally take you longer to find the relay than to change it.
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What I would suggest doing is buying a trailer light assembly. Cut the edging off and fit it inside the housing. Something along the lines of this:
https://www.menards.com/main/tools/a...7167451363.htm
These LED lights below have a sealed insert behind the lens that could be removed and installed inside your existing housing.

https://www.menards.com/main/tools/a...7167451363.htm
The trick is that you are buying an LED package that meets DOT regs, and therefore will be bright enough to easily be seen. In my previous coach, I was able to replace the whole assembly including case. It was much better than factory. Don't just buy LED bulbs, or you will be highly disappointed.
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Don't just buy LED bulbs, or you will be highly disappointed.
Not necessarily true. I first bought the Sylvania brand bulbs and was disappointed then I bought just the bulbs that I referenced in my previous post. They are VERY bright and look great.
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How wide is the usable dispersion on the lens? I have tried an LED bulb, and while the area near the bulb was bright, the light did not fill the whole lens evenly. All made for LED assemblies use multiple LEDs to cover a larger surface area. There is also a Freznel lens around each LED to increase dispersion. This improves visibility, especially from a distance in broad daylight. The Fresnel lens built into the standard Red lens in a tail light isn't made for dispersing the light from an LED.
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Click on These LED 1157 replacement bulbs. They are really bright in a the conventional housing in my 2003 Georgetown. The bulbs have LED's all the way around and a projector lens in the middle with more LED's behind it.

See the attached picture. My phone does not do justice to how good the light look when seen with your eyes.

The world of LED technology is progressing very rapidly. If your info is more than 1 or 2 years old it may be outdated relative to the current technology.
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