Who's been refused access to a campground?

[BobJones]

Originally Posted by palehorse89

I was just asked for photo's for a long stay at a Resort, called me back and said my Coach sure looks wonderful for being 19 yrs old! Your are very welcome to come in.......!!

Same here. I'm in a 2000 Diplomat and the rule at this park is 10 years or newer. So they asked for a picture and all is well.

I agree with the rule because in this case they have long-term parking areas which is where I am. It's a really bad thing when your park gets filled up with junk looking units that you can never get rid of. So I would not be offended I would just understand that they want to keep the crap out because it makes the park look bad.

[JFXG]

I just spent two months at an RV Park north of Seattle that was recently sold. Had a few good talks with the guy who sold it. Here’s the dope on the 10 year rule, as he explained to me. Sounds plausible, so I’ll believe it until proven different.
There are basically three insurance carriers in the country that will underwrite liability for campground/RV park owners. All three of them stipulate a max unit age of 10 years for long term guests— that is, stays in excess of 30 days. Savvy park owners, therefore, will not write a long term reservation for older coaches. They will only reserve 30 days at a time.
All three carriers “encourage” their clients to apply the ten year rule to all guests but do not require it. The degree to which park owners are encouraged varies with circumstances, which is why short-term guests find different policies on a seemingly random basis. At the same time, some park owners will conveniently blame their insurance carrier as they use the 10 year rule as a filter to keep out the worst of the raggedy offenders.
Unfortunately, according to my source the fear among park owners is that increasingly restrictive regulation by both insurers and local authorities is inevitable. Combine that with real estate pricing and near urban RV spots will become essentially extinct.
So, he sold his park and he’s out of it.

[MajorOz]

Use the Groucho Marx rule.

[BobJones]

Originally Posted by JFXG

I just spent two months at an RV Park north of Seattle that was recently sold. Had a few good talks with the guy who sold it. Here’s the dope on the 10 year rule, as he explained to me. Sounds plausible, so I’ll believe it until proven different.
There are basically three insurance carriers in the country that will underwrite liability for campground/RV park owners. All three of them stipulate a max unit age of 10 years for long term guests— that is, stays in excess of 30 days. Savvy park owners, therefore, will not write a long term reservation for older coaches. They will only reserve 30 days at a time.
All three carriers “encourage” their clients to apply the ten year rule to all guests but do not require it. The degree to which park owners are encouraged varies with circumstances, which is why short-term guests find different policies on a seemingly random basis. At the same time, some park owners will conveniently blame their insurance carrier as they use the 10 year rule as a filter to keep out the worst of the raggedy offenders.
Unfortunately, according to my source the fear among park owners is that increasingly restrictive regulation by both insurers and local authorities is inevitable. Combine that with real estate pricing and near urban RV spots will become essentially extinct.
So, he sold his park and he’s out of it.

That makes sense. In the park I am at we carry our own insurance and the long-term lots are rented on a daily basis. This is done by the park to skirt the landlord tenant act. It's not a bad thing as you can leave whenever you want. On the other hand, they can kick you out whenever they want. With the right management this is a good system as they can get rid of any trouble makers on the spot. If they raise the rent too high, everyone can leave en masse. It's an interesting way of doing things but it seems to be working well so far. It is a requirement in this park to have liability insurance on your unit.

[fbuckwalter]

We have sent pictures and been accepted and one time we could not get in because of the 10 year limit. When we drove past the one with the 10 year limit we were glad we didn't get in even though it was closer to where we wanted to be. The one we sent the pictures too we are going back to for the 3rd time in three years.

[Gone_Feral]

Originally Posted by texkayaker

I manage a very old RV park, built in 1946. We do not allow converted school buses or tents. As far as the 2018 tent trailer, yes he could stay but not with the tarps over everything. Also no freestanding covers, must be a TV awning attached to the RV. If it is a 2018 tent camper why would it need tarps to keep it dry. As an Army veteran I always like the flag displayed. Enlisted in 1955, some of you old timers will remember the brown shoe Ike jacket Army.

The tarp covering is a reflective sun shield. The canopies are also no doubt for shade. These folks know how to pitch a comfortable, yet low tech camp.

[toymaker10]

There's a RV resort in Margate Fl that will only allow class A moto homes. I had just bought my 2015 C and was looking for a place close to where my sister lives and I didn't qualify. Just as well because I don't speak French.

[fbuckwalter]

Originally Posted by Gone_Feral

The tarp covering is a reflective sun shield. The canopies are also no doubt for shade. These folks know how to pitch a comfortable, yet low tech camp.

I have seen all sorts of setups at the Army Corps camp grounds, tents included. It is a great place to camp and over many years had no problems. Now I have had issues with a guy in a new DP. So.....

[egh33]

Our coach is 12 years old and we just returned from a 4500 mile trip in July' Stayed in some pretty fancy campgrounds. No problem at any of them.

[Mochisme]

Originally Posted by Hoosier14

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July 2018, Las Vegas Motor Coach Resort said they “could not accommodate” us due to their 10 year rule.

Have you ever been to and seen the Las Vegas Motor Coach Resort? I have and I can well understand their policy. I did a tour thinking about purchasing a lot there and after the tour, I would not want to stay there with the snooty people I met.

[fratermus]

I am free market purist but I will suggest a thought experiment: ethically (not legally) how much income per year would it take for a prospective owner to reject:

• RVs over 10 years old
• RVs over 5 years old
• RVs that were bought used
• RVs without granite countertops
• assets less than one million dollars
• fat people
• ugly people
• people who don't worship the correct god
• gay people
• left handed people
• folks of an incorrect skin color
• the disabled

There is a joke that ends "We've agreed on what you are. Now we are just negotiating the price."

[fratermus]

Originally Posted by texkayaker

As an Army veteran I always like the flag displayed.

As an army veteran, I always like kindness and reason to be displayed.

[AFChap]

My 15 year coach has never been questioned, but after staying with them a month or more every year for about seven years, my reservation was canceled a week after I made it and I was banned from a park in Alabama because every year I had criticized their WIFI on an anonymous review site in my average 8 out of 10 reviews. The WIFI never worked reliably, and I said so. I don't know if they miss my $$$, but I don't miss them!!

[Rickinnocal]

Unfortunately, according to my source the fear among park owners is that increasingly restrictive regulation by both insurers and local authorities is inevitable.

And not merely regulation of actual RV Parks. Cities and counties are ever more aggressively enforcing 'no camping' ordinances. We are members of "Harvest Hosts", which is basically a directory of (Originally) Wineries and farms, and now certain museums and other 'roadside attractions', that will allow dry camping RV'ers to spend a night at their businesses for free.

There are over 600 locations across the country, but none in the Napa and Sonoma wine areas, despite dozens of wineries, organic farms etc. with shops attached that perfectly fit their target host. Since Harvest Hosts offers referral bonuses to members that refer both new members or new hosts, I spoke to a few that we went to about considering it. Every place I spoke to had heard of them, and most said they would love to join... but the county will not permit overnight RV parking at any business other than an RV park.

We occasionally park overnight at casinos, but Graton Casino near Santa Rosa, which we often visit, aggressively enforces a 'no sleeping' rule on parked RV's. When I asked security why, given that most casinos like the trade, I was told they would love to allow it, but the county threatened fines for running an unregistered encampment.

After the hundreds of homes around Santa Rosa that were destroyed in the wildfires, we have even heard of the Sheriffs ticketing people for sleeping in their RV's in the driveway of their own burned out homes. This is being kept on the 'front burner' by substantial "campaign donations" from existing parks and RV businesses to county supervisors. One large RV dealer here that has a license for overnight parking on their lot is advertising on Craigslist every week for dry parking spaces in the parking lot for $750/month, and saying what a great deal that is compared to KOA's minimum $70/night

Richard