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07-16-2020, 02:23 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Fairbanks and Portland
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Snowbirding down south with Border closed
I am located in Fairbanks AK so to get to warmer climate this winter I will have to drive through Canada which has closed its borders to non essential traffic. I am assuming that this includes traveling away from home, ie vacation. I was wondering how those of you in Canada are planning your winter since the US border is also closed. Are you still hoping that it will be reopened, the rules change or just going to fly down to your favorite spot. bummed as this was the first year we were going to try to avoid the Fairbanks winter.
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07-16-2020, 02:43 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Vancouver Wash
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If you know somebody down here, have them send you a letter saying you've been hired and the job is waiting.....be an essential worker...
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07-20-2020, 05:21 AM
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Junior Member
Holiday Rambler Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Ontario
Posts: 7
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That is a difficult question to answer right now. My guess that the border will be closed until Q4 2020 and depending on covid 19 developments and could be delayed further. I will likely keep my unit in storage in Canada over the upcoming winter even if the border reopens late in 2020. To answer your question, your travel through Canada potentially a issue as well.....yes essential workers that are U.S. citizens are permitted to enter Canada to work but you must have proper supporting documentation to do so....e.g. a visa.
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08-03-2020, 07:14 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 685
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctickats
I am located in Fairbanks AK so to get to warmer climate this winter I will have to drive through Canada which has closed its borders to non essential traffic. I am assuming that this includes traveling away from home, ie vacation. I was wondering how those of you in Canada are planning your winter since the US border is also closed. Are you still hoping that it will be reopened, the rules change or just going to fly down to your favorite spot. bummed as this was the first year we were going to try to avoid the Fairbanks winter.
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I see no issue for YOU if you are a US citizen. Americans are allowed to enter Canada to proceed directly to Alaska for whatever reason. It follows that an American can enter Canada to go South to the Lower US mainland so long as passport requirements are met.
For my part,I will mothball any travel plans to any area where I think I might be unsafe despite political assertions to the contrary.
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08-03-2020, 11:57 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
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Based on the increasing numbers of Covid infections daily in the US, my sense is that the border will remain closed through out 2020 and possibly into 2021.
Frankly, if this is a means of slowing the spread, then keep it closed.
Transiting through Canada to Alaska was hit with more restrictions from the Canadian Government this week due to people lying at the border and claiming to be going to Alaska when they had no intention of doing so, and then not adhering to the rules once they got in.
Sure, as one person said earlier, just get someone to write you a letter stating you have a job waiting for you. That is precisely the kind of thing that creates problems for people who are trying to abide by the rules and slow the spread of this pandemic.
We are all making sacrifices right now, some more so than others.
Your best bet is to contact the Border Agency and ask questions to your specific situation and get a sense of what is required in order to transit through Canada from from Alaska.
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Southern Ontario
2014 Fleetwood Southwind 32VS 🇨🇦
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08-03-2020, 12:16 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Powell River, B.C.
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Designated border crossings, for US travelers , to/from the lower 48 were part of the new restrictions , no travel through Canadian National Parks , limited travel time allowed through the Yukon Territory ( 24 hrs) reporting to Canadian Border Services on exiting Canada. Were all part of the restrictions imposed this week.
Check now with the CBSA ( Canadian Border Services Agency) then check again close to a possible departure date as tighter rules may be put into in place at any time.
www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca
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08-03-2020, 06:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Alberta Canada
Posts: 704
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim.B1
Based on the increasing numbers of Covid infections daily in the US, my sense is that the border will remain closed through out 2020 and possibly into 2021.
Frankly, if this is a means of slowing the spread, then keep it closed.
Sure, as one person said earlier, just get someone to write you a letter stating you have a job waiting for you. That is precisely the kind of thing that creates problems for people who are trying to abide by the rules and slow the spread of this pandemic.
We are all making sacrifices right now, some more so than others.
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08-04-2020, 08:08 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: White Rock, BC
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Originally Posted by bob caldwell
If you know somebody down here, have them send you a letter saying you've been hired and the job is waiting.....be an essential worker...
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Thank you for both suggesting that someone break the law and disrespect Canada all in a single sentence.
It is this type of attitude that has resulted in travel restrictions for Americans going through Canada to be tightened and fines for disregarding these rules to be set at $750,000 and 3-years in jail.
It is very unlikely the border will re-open again this year with so many of our neighbours refusing to take this pandemic seriously.
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08-04-2020, 09:06 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Vancouver Wash
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Originally Posted by Ron_H
Thank you for both suggesting that someone break the law and disrespect Canada all in a single sentence.
It is this type of attitude that has resulted in travel restrictions for Americans going through Canada to be tightened and fines for disregarding these rules to be set at $750,000 and 3-years in jail.
It is very unlikely the border will re-open again this year with so many of our neighbours refusing to take this pandemic seriously.
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Post the 'LAW'......
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08-04-2020, 09:19 AM
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
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Location: Prince George, BC, Canada
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08-04-2020, 06:54 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob caldwell
Post the 'LAW'......
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https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/services...diens-eng.html
OK, there you go, someone did post the link earlier and I'm fairly certain it's not Fake News.
There are those tourists who may not like it or agree with it, nevertheless, it is the law here in Canada.
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Southern Ontario
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08-04-2020, 07:22 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Powell River, B.C.
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Just so there is no misunderstanding, from my perspective, and reading the restrictions, there is not a move to stop legitimate travellers to and from Alaska to the lower 48.
All the restrictions are to prevent those who would enter Canada under the pretext of travel ,to or from Alaska, then show up in Jasper for lunch , Banff for a hike, or Vancouver Island for a stay.
What is expected of those traveling, is to go where they say their going in a timely manner, limiting all unnecessary contact with anyone on route.
For those traveling with RVs , carry the food and water for your trip and stop only to fuel up ( preferably pay at the pump) and eat,rest and sleep in your unit.
The Yukon, from the very beginning of this heath crisis has restricted those going through to 24 hours in the territory. Why the new Canadian federal regulations didn’t limit travellers to 48 hrs in B.C. or Alberta, is beyond me.
Or even mirroring Alaska’s own measures of , proof of a negative COVID-19 test less than 72 hours old or isolation on crossing into the state while waiting on test results there.
JMHO: of course, now to send the Prime Minister another nasty gram.
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08-04-2020, 10:19 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: White Rock, BC
Posts: 782
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob caldwell
Post the 'LAW'......
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https://www.canada.ca/en/border-serv...to-alaska.html
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08-04-2020, 10:24 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: White Rock, BC
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There is no issue with Americans transiting through Canada for essential travel reasons. The objections raised above are to one member suggesting another member fabricate an "essential' travel reason. This would expose the person to a potential $750,000 fine and up to 3-years in jail.
Legitimate travellers are welcome as long as they obey the travel restrictions and conditions.
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