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01-17-2011, 12:12 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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I just took my first trip after installing my 5050XL. My trip took me over the Grapevine in California and up into the hills around Mariposa. The fuel milage went from a normal 7mpg to 8mpg towing a Honda CR-V and doing alot of uphill pulling. Besides being alot louder, it seems I have made some performance gains.
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1933 Ford 3 Window,as seen in Bye Bye Birdie
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01-18-2011, 05:52 AM
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#30
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
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Sounds like your coach runs a lot better! Is it loud inside when traveling or pulling hills over the stock muffler? If you were still thinking of installing one like i am would you do it again. I don't want it to be to loud. When i was young i liked loud, my harleys are loud but sound good like they are suppose to,but i don't want my coach to be over bearing loud. And i don't want any muffler noise inside more than i got now. When i say loud i guess i mean " rumble". Did you pickup more of a rumble inside? Thank you for you posts
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01-19-2011, 01:36 AM
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#31
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Sep 2007
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we have 2 aero turbine mufflers on our gas moho.
they are definitely louder than stock, especially when climbing and descending hills.
with the windows closed, the sound is not objectionable. when you want to hear them, just open a window a little.
going through tunnels is interesting.
in cruise at 1900-2000 rpm they are not much louder than stock inside the moho, even with a window open.
it feels like there is more low end power. it climbs hills and mountains in cruise control towing our toad very well.
our gas mileage is still abysmal, 6.82 mpg on a recent 3.5k mile trip towing our nissan altima on a stehl dolly.
my dw is very sensitive to low frequency noise such as the flowmaster system on her brothers el camino. that racket drives her nuts.
i installed the aero's myself with my dw's help with clamps so that we could reinstall the stock mufflers if necessary.
my dw says that the aero's are keepers.
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01-19-2011, 05:07 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by palehorse89
Sounds like your coach runs a lot better! Is it loud inside when traveling or pulling hills over the stock muffler? If you were still thinking of installing one like i am would you do it again. I don't want it to be to loud. When i was young i liked loud, my harleys are loud but sound good like they are suppose to,but i don't want my coach to be over bearing loud. And i don't want any muffler noise inside more than i got now. When i say loud i guess i mean " rumble". Did you pickup more of a rumble inside? Thank you for you posts
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My MH is a 34ft so I'm a bit closer to the tail pipe than yours. I have gotten a bit more noise up front but it is not annoying. What I didn't want was a constant droneing sound at highwas speeds and that seems to be OK. To me the sound reminds me a little like the old 6 cylinder Chevys with dual pipes. The important thing is it doesen't seem to bother my wife and thats important because we go on long trips. I got my 5050XL for $120 wholesale at a Muffler supply wharehouse and aout $90 for all the bends and adapters. I think they can be had on Ebay or Amazon for a decent price.
It is fun to roll by a Prius and vibrate their windows , I'm sorry about that. The Devil made me say that. That was awful.
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1933 Ford 3 Window,as seen in Bye Bye Birdie
Pvt. E1 Retired, Shadow Hills,Ca.
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01-19-2011, 05:59 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
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Ironman- Suggest you log onto www.dieselstop.com Which is primarly a Ford power stroke diesel forum)(with lots of increasing horse power) and read what the thoughts are on the K & N air filters. Seens these filters do not filter out finer particules and in time will wipe out the turbo. Big $$$.
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01-20-2011, 07:14 AM
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#34
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVhauler
Ironman- Suggest you log onto www.dieselstop.com Which is primarly a Ford power stroke diesel forum)(with lots of increasing horse power) and read what the thoughts are on the K & N air filters. Seens these filters do not filter out finer particules and in time will wipe out the turbo. Big $$$.
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I have read the post on the internet about K&N and other type of air filters letting more dirt into the engine than conventional paper filters. I have been running an K&N on a 2003 PT Cruiser turbo since new with no issues. While it is less restrictive it is an wet fiter while the OEM is a dry filter. Read this test it is one that i know is independant
Filtration Testing for Amsoil, K&N, Napa, Jackson Racing, Baldwin, and Mazda air filters on a Miata
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02-10-2011, 03:21 PM
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#35
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Just filled up after a 500 mile trip after installing the Aero Turbine 5050XL and averaged 10mpg. I was getting 7mpg before the install. My average speed was 65mph. I shook all the windows and set of car alarms from Burbank to Manteca and back.
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1933 Ford 3 Window,as seen in Bye Bye Birdie
Pvt. E1 Retired, Shadow Hills,Ca.
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02-10-2011, 10:19 PM
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#36
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Location: Northern Oklahoma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck 1935
My MH is a 34ft so I'm a bit closer to the tail pipe than yours. I have gotten a bit more noise up front but it is not annoying. What I didn't want was a constant droneing sound at highwas speeds and that seems to be OK. To me the sound reminds me a little like the old 6 cylinder Chevys with dual pipes. The important thing is it doesen't seem to bother my wife and thats important because we go on long trips. I got my 5050XL for $120 wholesale at a Muffler supply wharehouse and aout $90 for all the bends and adapters. I think they can be had on Ebay or Amazon for a decent price.
It is fun to roll by a Prius and vibrate their windows , I'm sorry about that. The Devil made me say that. That was awful.
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I'm considering installing one on my 36' Meridian and was wondering why it takes bends (how many) and adapters (what kind) when it sounds like it fits pretty much in the same place as the original. Where did you get your bends? Any additional suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Wagonmaster2
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02-10-2011, 10:55 PM
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#37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wagonmaster2
I'm considering installing one on my 36' Meridian and was wondering why it takes bends (how many) and adapters (what kind) when it sounds like it fits pretty much in the same place as the original. Where did you get your bends? Any additional suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
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I got all my parts and pieces at a wholesale exhaust supply house. A new 4 inch 90 bend is needed to route the exhaust to the rear to the new muffler. The original comes out of the turbo and 90 down to the 4 inch muffler inlet. I used a 4 inch band clamp to attach the additonal 90 that routs the exhaust back to the muffler. You then need a 4 to 5 inch adapter to go into the muffler. I used band clamps on all the joints. The whole set up ran $200. The other thing you have to make are the muffler hangers. I used the original brackets and made new bands. The original 5 inch tail pipe can be reused but will have to be shortened.
I hope this helps.
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1933 Ford 3 Window,as seen in Bye Bye Birdie
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02-23-2011, 03:15 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Texas Boomers Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck 1935
Just filled up after a 500 mile trip after installing the Aero Turbine 5050XL and averaged 10mpg. I was getting 7mpg before the install. My average speed was 65mph. I shook all the windows and set of car alarms from Burbank to Manteca and back.
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Sounds like fun with the alarms.
Did you just change the muffler or put an air filter in also. That's a great increase in fuel.
Thought I had one at "Our deals rock" But after ordering and found out that the 20% AERO discount coupon on their website "dosen't apply to THAT one", decided not to buy from them. There deals suck. So stuck trying to find another one from a reputable company. If anyone knows of a 5050 XL out there, let me know.
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02-23-2011, 04:50 PM
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Senior Member
National RV Owners Club
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I just installed a 5050XL on my motorhome. It was purchased off Ebay and I purchased a 5 inch elbow, one clamp and two hangers from another vender. Removal and installation was not to hard. Lots of dirt down there. I sprayed the nuts & bolts several times alternating with WD-40 and Blaster. Some of the nuts did require a lot of torque to remove. Separating the old muffler from the tail pipe took some taping, twisting and some "words" of encouragement. It was not extremely easy but not real hard. I could have used an extra hand during the installation when inserting the tail pipe into the muffler and holding it up while getting hangers attached. I started it up and it sounds (I think) marginally louder but will have to wait a few days before I can take it out. It is supposed to snow about 12 inches tonight & tomorrow.
Bob
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07-24-2012, 06:13 PM
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#41
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Solo Rvers Club
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Location: NEPA
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Just bought on on E-Bay For 119.95
Aero Turbine Performance Exhaust AT5050XL Muffler
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07-24-2012, 06:19 PM
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Senior Member
National RV Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Chow5656 - When I installed the 5050XL I first removed the old one and tail pipe and put it next to the new one on the shop floor. I was able to figure out what parts I needed, ordered them and then installed the new one. The muffler is louder and I do think makes a difference in low end torque and exhaust temps.
And Welcome to the forum - a great amount of information is available on this site.
Bob
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