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Old 03-12-2023, 06:30 AM   #1
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Ditching the toad?

We started talking yesterday about weather or not we need to take the toad on an up coming trip. First off we are not full time. The first trip this year is coming up, going to Vegas, staying downtown at Main St Station RV park. Down town Vegas should be all walking and if we need supplies we can Uber or rent a car. Planning 5 stops along the way and we could not come up with a reason to unhook the toad anywhere, if we need supplies there's always a Walmart parking lot with enough room to pull in. Not really planning any side trips because we have seen most of the sites around the Vegas area but may stop, or go to the Grand Canyon but there also we can rent something or stop at The Grand Canyon Railroad place and go by train(witch I think might be fun) So we can't figure out what we need the toad for. Anyone else do this or try this?
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Old 03-12-2023, 06:43 AM   #2
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Sounds like you thought this through. We traveled sans toad for a few years until we had a breakdown. Fortunately we were only 20 from home a wife had driven her car. RV went east hooked to a truck, we went west. Just another factor to consider.

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Old 03-12-2023, 06:50 AM   #3
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Sounds like a plan......

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Old 03-12-2023, 06:57 AM   #4
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You are fairly close to Fremont Street, but fairly distant from what I'd consider to be the main strip. There may be public transportation to the strip, but it looks like a fairly good walk. For me personally I like to visit the sights again regardless of the fact that I've been there before, they are still beautiful. If I go to Vegas I'm probably at least going the Valley of Fire State Park.
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Old 03-12-2023, 07:16 AM   #5
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We did a trip from Louisiana to the Grand Canyon in our 28 ft class A without a TOAD a few months before covid hit, and had no problem managing without one. Our trip had stops at Sante Fe, NM, Aztec national monument, 4 corners monument, Goosenecks State Park, UT, Wahweap campground, Page, AZ, Mather Campground at the Grand Canyon, etc.

We took an uber in Santa Fe, rode the shuttle bus that stopped by the campground at the the grand canyon, and drove the coach the 8 miles into Page each day to do a Glen Canyon float trip, and walking tour of Antelope canyon.


p.s. according to the web site, the shuttle buses are running at the Grand Canyon, but may require masks to be worn depending on local covid levels (week to week updates), though the bus route that runs out the main gate and covers some commercial campgrounds and hotels does not seem to be running this spring.
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Old 03-12-2023, 07:38 AM   #6
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Ditching the toad?

We agree that Uber is the way to do Vegas. Thatís how we did it a few years back. Uber is cheap and easy and we didnít wait more than 5 minutes for one at any time I remember. And no worries about finding and paying for parking.

Maybe rent a Jeep Wrangler for Grand Canyon otherwise I would want to tow my own.
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Old 03-12-2023, 08:23 AM   #7
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Thanks for the replies. We don't much care for the strip so I think the other stuff(like the mob museum)is all walking distance. Getting to and from the Grand Canyon would be the only questionable thing if we choose to venture there form Vegas. One other thing that bothers me at all is being stranded in the middle of no where but then again we wouldn't leave the motorhome just sitting by the road and self protection is always at hand.
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Old 03-12-2023, 08:27 AM   #8
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Also I might add, when we go across the state to Sugar Mill Ruins or Jetty Park we leave the toad at home. 250 mile is a lot different than 3200
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Old 03-12-2023, 09:38 PM   #9
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All depends on what you like to do. In our younger days we had a truck camper and then a Class C and towed a boat. We would stay at a campground for two weeks boating with the kids and never had a vehicle.

Now, we travel and only stay at one place for 2-3 days max and move on. Our trips wouldn't work without a toad. If I were going to Las Vegas like you are, it would probably be even cheaper and easier to just drive there in a car. I think anyone on here can plan a specific trip where they wouldn't need a toad, but its handy on trips where you make many stops. We all travel differently.
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Old 03-13-2023, 06:54 AM   #10
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Sounds like you got it sorted out.

I’ve planned quite a few toad-less trips, only to get vetoed in the end. Even if we don’t need it, the DW’s beloved Jeep never gets left behind.
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Ditching the toad.........we ofter camp without the toad and bring our e-bikes to get around. However, the toad is useful when we cannot get a ride, use public transportation or taxi/uber/lyft service and rental cars are not available.
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We rarely travel without the toad. But we generally make a run from the house for a month or so.

When traveling to a destination where we don’t plan to need the toad we have left it behind. It saved me having to hook / unhook it a couple of times. But that was it. It did not change how or where I drove or my fuel mileage. So when in doubt we bring it. When we are sure we don’t need it we leave it at home.
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Old 03-13-2023, 07:30 PM   #13
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We travel to Vegas often and just use the public transportation. Too many cars on the road in that city. Parking is a hassle. Then again, we have never towed a vehicle and it has never been an issue. If we are camping for any length of time, where we would want a car, we just rent one in the nearby town.
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Old 03-13-2023, 08:35 PM   #14
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Sounds like you have a plan.

A toad gives you much more options. Some places you may go in the future Uber or car rental may not be a good option.

It's very nice to arrive, unhook and then you have a vehicle to take you shopping or excursions without the hassle of Uber or car rental.
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