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Old 03-01-2021, 04:45 PM   #1
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Electric steps

My automatic electric steps just started making a grinding noise. Pulled motor and the problem is with the 9 tooth spur/pinion gear. Looks like MFR's don't want this to be a simple gear change and would rather sell you a complete motor assy. Anyone find a source for these gears anywhere instead of replacing the entire motor?

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Louie ; going to need a bunch of info about your coach( year, make and model ) and step manufacturer in order to be of any help .

Please remember we're not there beside you; seeing what your seeing; you have to tell us everything.

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If your steps are Kwikee (most common), you should be able to buy separate parts including gears, gear boxes, linkages, etc.

Can you at least give us the make and model of your steps?
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I have dealt with that same failure. I learned real quick to allow the steps to extend and stop motion before stepping on them. I had no luck finding the gear. Good Luck with your search.
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Yeah, now that I think about it some more, the gear I mentioned I believe was an older Lippert product that I've seen sold separately.

I think I know exactly what the 9-tooth gear you're referring to is now and you're right, it's not available as a separate part.

If my guess is correct, you have Kwikee steps and the motor looks like the one in the image I attached below (or similar) and the gear you're referring to is the one circled? If so, it is correct that the gear itself can't be purchased separately.

However, if you read through the following older thread there are several Ford power window motors that either fit perfectly or can be modified slightly to fit Kwikee steps (again, this is assuming that you do have Kwikee steps). A Kwikee motor can be almost $200 depending on the steps model. However, the Ford power window motors can be purchased for about $30 to $60.

Kwikee step motor (page 2)


One post points to this motor as being an exact fit for his application: through Amazon, ACI 83094 Power Window Motor

But there are several other window motors listed in the thread that are either an exact fit or can be modified slightly to fit a Kwikee steps application.




First image is a Kwikee motor that can sell for up to $200 and the second image is a Ford power window motor that has been reported fitting some Kwikee applications without any modification that can be purchased through Amazon for $44.70
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Yeah, now that I think about it some more, the gear I mentioned I believe was an older Lippert product that I've seen sold separately.

I think I know exactly what the 9-tooth gear you're referring to is now and you're right, it's not available as a separate part.

If my guess is correct, you have Kwikee steps and the motor looks like the one in the image I attached below (or similar) and the gear you're referring to is the one circled? If so, it is correct that the gear itself can't be purchased separately.

However, if you read through the following older thread there are several Ford power window motors that either fit perfectly or can be modified slightly to fit Kwikee steps (again, this is assuming that you do have Kwikee steps). A Kwikee motor can be almost $200 depending on the steps model. However, the Ford power window motors can be purchased for about $30 to $60.

Kwikee step motor (page 2)


One post points to this motor as being an exact fit for his application: through Amazon, ACI 83094 Power Window Motor

But there are several other window motors listed in the thread that are either an exact fit or can be modified slightly to fit a Kwikee steps application.




First image is a Kwikee motor that can sell for up to $200 and the second image is a Ford power window motor that has been reported fitting some Kwikee applications without any modification that can be purchased through Amazon for $44.70


I was able to purchase the gear from American Equipment for $8.93. I found them online. I am currently traveling and am not able to look them up.
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Old 03-02-2021, 10:41 AM   #7
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Theroc- you are exactly correct.
My steps are Kwikee p/n 902509000 and look exactly as pictured in your reply. I will search American Equipment next. Any advice is appreciated- I will also look into the ford window motor- thx for the leads.
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OK- after all help provided from you fine folks I was able to locate the gear from AM Equipment in Oregon. $8.93.
Thanks to all that provided input.
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Having a couple of Fords around I keep a set of the plastic "rollers" on my shelf. They are what tears up in Ford (Kwikkee) power window motors. I've replaced a LOT of them over the years. I don't I've ever seen but one stripped gear in one, the rollers always give first.

My Kwikkee motor had suffered a bit of water intrusion (it was rusty). It ran, but slowly and just made a sad crunching noise. As soon as I went under the coach I knew what it was and grabbed a spare power window motor for my 1995 F150 (driver's side if I recall-there are "left" and "right" motor assemblies) and slapped it on. Steps fixed.

To repair your motor take it off and remove the screws holding the plate around the gear. Remove it and you should see some yellowish grease and a bunch of plastic crumbs that used to be the rollers. Take the center gear out and clean all the bits out. Put the new rollers in and wrestle the center gear back in. It will be tight and require some wiggling, maybe even a retry or two. Add grease. I think the factory uses white lithium but I use dielectric silicone. Probably doesn't matter. Put the cover back on and there you are. Make sure you are CLEAR of the steps before you reconnect power. Just in case.

The rollers can be found in the "Help!" packaged parts of your local auto parts stores. They run like eight dollars last I had to buy some. I prefer to stock up ahead of time though like on ebay. These are some, most are white colored though.
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(From what I read?) most are a car window motor, so if lucky, lay your on parts counter and see if store can match it? Have seen some as low as $59? Now, hope the gear you need in the assembly they sell vs (??) May take some internet search for more detail, if needed? I have saved notes, just not handy right now
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RV KwiKee Power Steps: EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW

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There's a fantastic video on YT that covers Kwikee Power Steps. Great maintenance tips, troubleshooting, safety tips and parts list. This video will really help anyone that owns KwiKee Power Steps.

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