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01-25-2006, 02:53 PM
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I'd be interested in learning how other owners with the new external waste tank level indicators have found them vs the old internal indicators.
My experience since Sept 1/05 - no change and they may be even less accurate. When I empty my tanks (and flush the black tank for at least 5 minutes [and in one case 10 minutes] and dump 3 bowls full of water through the system) the black tank often shows it is still full and the gray will drop to 2/3rds. Over Xmas it was emptied and then not used for 2.5 weeks - still showed incorrect levels. I sure hope the manufacturers didn't pay more for this so-called improved system.
Don
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01-25-2006, 02:53 PM
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I'd be interested in learning how other owners with the new external waste tank level indicators have found them vs the old internal indicators.
My experience since Sept 1/05 - no change and they may be even less accurate. When I empty my tanks (and flush the black tank for at least 5 minutes [and in one case 10 minutes] and dump 3 bowls full of water through the system) the black tank often shows it is still full and the gray will drop to 2/3rds. Over Xmas it was emptied and then not used for 2.5 weeks - still showed incorrect levels. I sure hope the manufacturers didn't pay more for this so-called improved system.
Don
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01-25-2006, 03:11 PM
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Mine have worked perfectly since Jan 2005, although our coach never sits idle for more than 3 or 4 days.
Tom
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01-25-2006, 04:19 PM
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The sensors will give false readings if the leads between the sensors are not dressed properly. Sometimes they are just wrapped together but they must be separated so as to not induce "crosstalk." It's something to look at if you can get to the leads.
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01-25-2006, 11:00 PM
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diesel125, the next time you get ready to go, dump the tanks; fill 1/2 with fresh water and after you have warmed up the engine and are ready to pull away dump about 5 lbs of ice down the toilet. As you drive and the sloshing action bangs the ice around on the sensors it will help to break up any solids or tissue hung up on the studs. For the gray tank you can use an enzime to help break up any greases or soap scum that can falsify the readings. If this method does not inmprove the black tank readings than you could have wiring issues to address. If it returns the reading to empty when you get to your destination and dump the tank then your wiring is ok. Good luck and let us know how things turn out.
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01-26-2006, 03:43 AM
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RV Wizard, I understood the new external sensors did not have a stud into the inside the tank. The ones I looked at stuck on the outside only. I was told placement of the wiring from the sensors to the inside readout could affect the readings. I was also told mineral build up on the inside walls of the tank can cause errors in the reading. Maybe using a product such as Iron Out would remove any mineral build up on the inside of the tank.
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01-26-2006, 04:11 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RV Wizard:
diesel125, the next time you get ready to go, dump the tanks; fill 1/2 with fresh water and after you have warmed up the engine and are ready to pull away dump about 5 lbs of ice down the toilet. As you drive and the sloshing action bangs the ice around on the sensors it will help to break up any solids or tissue hung up on the studs. For the gray tank you can use an enzime to help break up any greases or soap scum that can falsify the readings. If this method does not inmprove the black tank readings than you could have wiring issues to address. If it returns the reading to empty when you get to your destination and dump the tank then your wiring is ok. Good luck and let us know how things turn out. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Mike, I don't think any of this is relevant in my case since they were no better from day one. I guess I'll have to look and see if there is a wiring issue - or just play it buy ear and when the shower floor gets wet we know the gray tank has to be drained and when my keister gets wet I'll know it is time to drain the black.
Good thing these guys don't develop fuel gauges.
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01-26-2006, 11:06 PM
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Although I do not have first hand knowlege, I have heard the the external sensor system does perform well. You can run a seach by clicking on the "find" button. this has been discussed here before.
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01-28-2006, 02:28 AM
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I have had the original model of See Level by Garnet for 7 years now. My only problem was that in heavy rain the sensors would apparently ground out and read full. Garnet advised me to coat the sensors with undercoating (from a can) and have had no additional problems.
Gus Weber
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01-28-2006, 06:59 AM
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I have a pair of SeeLevel panels also and they are awesome. Nice accurate reading with digital displays in 2% increments.
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01-28-2006, 02:47 PM
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our 2003 travel trailer had the internal sensors and we were always guessing how much longer we could go before we had to dump, on our new adventurer we have the true level system and it works great!If i were you it would be back to the dealer and insist that they fix it.
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