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UFO Pilot · 06-13-2016, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cat320

I am continually amazed at the good folks that continue to use stuff like HC and think it really works. You don't use it at home, 'cause the toilet is vented...just like your RV! Re read #34.

Home toilets have a "water barrier", RV toilets don't, big difference.

B Dubya · 06-13-2016, 05:18 PM

I am continually amazed at the folks that go out of their way to criticize folks for using chemicals just because they don't.

Jeffcarp · 06-13-2016, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cat320

I am continually amazed at the good folks that continue to use stuff like HC and think it really works. You don't use it at home, 'cause the toilet is vented...just like your RV! Re read #34.

The trap in the residential toilet is what eliminates sewer gases, not the vent. Your RV toilet does not have a trap in most cases. Not the same thing.

nothermark · 06-13-2016, 06:09 PM

I don't think anyone criticizes anyone else beyond pointing out that there is no need for some special sauce. We all pour some money down our pet rat holes some way. ;-)

Jeffcarp · 06-13-2016, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nothermark

I don't think anyone criticizes anyone else beyond pointing out that there is no need for some special sauce. We all pour some money down our pet rat holes some way. ;-)

But there is a need for strategies other than "just add water" for some use cases. I think what people are objecting to is the common tendency to assume that a person's specific use and circumstances in their own coach applies equally to everyone else.

palehorse89 · 06-13-2016, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dogmum53

I have seen several posts where people suggest using dish soap or Calgon to clean the tanks. Our dealer told us to never do this because the soap bubbles will foam up and be hard to rinse. Now we are having issues with our tank sensors so I need to really clean the tanks. Has the soap method never caused you issues?

No, no problems.........I use Joy or Dawn that cuts grease.................I also use them out in my garage to wash my hands after working..........if really soiled, I use GoJo...........
Don't put so much in the tanks, that you form a "Bubble Bath" inside them

It does not take to much to clean and work.......and depends on how much water you have in the tanks........

ChasA · 06-13-2016, 08:41 PM

My 💩 don't stink because I use a lot of water. Well good for you. I'll continue using chemicals. It is not your money I'm spending.

Jpcoleman · 06-13-2016, 09:35 PM

So, as a newbie, I learned quickly as taught by four days in Vegas one week ago while 110 degrees outside. My black tank is 35 gallons. I had dumped it the day before Vegas and despite putting about 5 gallons of water in, when we returned to the bus after a planned break at the end of four days, I thought we had a decomposing transient stowed somewhere. It was pretty rough. Quickly filled my sink drains and washing machine trap just in case and proceeded to dump. From that point on, I used 10 gallons of water after the dump. started on 1/3 tank full, with chemicals. with the four of us, to achieve 25 more gallons of excrement in anything less than a week would be a bad burrito scenario.

Have not had the problem again.

Lesson learned:
1. Water in tank following dump is your friend. Plenty is good, more is better (within reason).
2. Chemical may or may not help. I have my doubts, but do not have the signed permission slip from the powers that be to try without yet.
3. Vegas heat is great for stressing many systems. Evaporation is greatly exaggerated there. Had we been in the bus, probably would not have been so bad.

Cat320 · 06-15-2016, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by UFO Pilot

Home toilets have a "water barrier", RV toilets don't, big difference.

If the water barrier in the bowl works, the roof vent for the toilet works (and is not blocked) and you do not run the bathroom roof vent while flushing, you will have no odors. If you have an odor, either a ''bathroom'' odor or a holding tank deodorizer odor, there is something wrong with your set up.

Jeffcarp · 06-16-2016, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Cat320

If the water barrier in the bowl works, the roof vent for the toilet works (and is not blocked) and you do not run the bathroom roof vent while flushing, you will have no odors. If you have an odor, either a ''bathroom'' odor or a holding tank deodorizer odor, there is something wrong with your set up.

The water barrier doesn't work BY DESIGN when you flush. It doesn't have to be constant odors that people object to. People may object to temporary odors WHILE flushing even if they dissipate after the flush. Time to give up the "there's something wrong with your system if you smell something" canard.

flaggship1 · 06-16-2016, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jalan

The water barrier doesn't work BY DESIGN when you flush. It doesn't have to be constant odors that people object to. People may object to temporary odors WHILE flushing even if they dissipate after the flush. Time to give up the "there's something wrong with your system if you smell something" canard.

And to be honest. I think my black tank occasional gets heartburn and burbs... out of nowhere and not often... but dump, flush, Happy Camper, and it's gone. Doesn't happen very often, but it happens.

But I share your sentiment. I know for a fact everything is working properly. And I experienced this with the B-Van I had for 20+ years. Just this once in a while "belch" like a lake turning over...

DrDaveMA · 06-16-2016, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jpcoleman

So, as a newbie, I learned quickly as taught by four days in Vegas one week ago while 110 degrees outside. My black tank is 35 gallons. I had dumped it the day before Vegas and despite putting about 5 gallons of water in, when we returned to the bus after a planned break at the end of four days, I thought we had a decomposing transient stowed somewhere. It was pretty rough. Quickly filled my sink drains and washing machine trap just in case and proceeded to dump. From that point on, I used 10 gallons of water after the dump. started on 1/3 tank full, with chemicals. with the four of us, to achieve 25 more gallons of excrement in anything less than a week would be a bad burrito scenario.

Have not had the problem again.

Lesson learned:
1. Water in tank following dump is your friend. Plenty is good, more is better (within reason).
2. Chemical may or may not help. I have my doubts, but do not have the signed permission slip from the powers that be to try without yet.
3. Vegas heat is great for stressing many systems. Evaporation is greatly exaggerated there. Had we been in the bus, probably would not have been so bad.

In many cases people are smelling the grey tank, not the black. The grey tank can smell as bad or worse than the black. As you said, keep the p traps filled, many times that water is sloshed out while driving.