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02-15-2016, 06:17 PM
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Living On A Private Lot In Pahrump -Pros and Cons??
I have decided living in an RV park is just not for me. More than not it gets over crowded and very stressful late for me late in the snowbird season because any breathing room or elbow space is quite literally gone. And when it gets crowded people start acting out like angry passengers on a commercial airline flight. At my age??No thanks. So next winter I would like to invest in private land with a sign posted in capital letters, NO CAMPING ALLOWED, except for myself of course. But I would like to know. What are the ins and outs of having a private RV pad in Southern Nevada?? How complicated is it to get water, sewer, electric and concrete pad for the Motorhome put in??? Is it worth the work?? Is it worth it to have your own plot of land?? Or is it more hassle than it is worth??? To many health problems to deal with the stress of crowded RV parks. Dry camping is starting to look like heaven to me. Many of the people in this park have a very bad attitude toward boon dockers which I find odd. I love Pahrump dearly but I just want to enjoy it in a more secluded stress free environment and among people that are not so narrow minded. So I am looking for feedback that will help me make a more informed decision. Thank You
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02-15-2016, 06:28 PM
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A lot of people badmouth boondockers! The seem to think if you can afford an RV you can afford a campground! But for us that isn't the problem. Up until the middle of last year we were both working, then the DW got terminated so now it's just me working and the grandson in school. That means long days driving to our destination and stopping when we get tired, which is usually long after most parks close. By the time we find a restaurant and buy what we need in the store we've spent as much as a campground would cost. Have parked next to some nice Prevost's in Wal*Marts too.
We looked into buying a lot in Yuma where we had friends at the time (they've since died). Decided we didn't want to be tied down and feel like we had to use it. Now that the DW has liver cancer it wouldn't have mattered anyway!
At that time the bare lots were going for around $50,000 each, now they're up to $100,000 from what I've heard but haven't really checked.
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02-15-2016, 06:31 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Didn't feel that at Nevada Treasure. One knothead but otherwise a great place. There are long termers there. Met several and all very nice.
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02-15-2016, 06:42 PM
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If you can afford it and not get bored always going to the same place, go for it. Resale is not often easy, however. JMHO. I could not handle limited travel, taxes, etc.
We move often, about 24-30 times/year. Sometimes just to change the outdoor wallpaper!
Best wishes!
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02-16-2016, 05:32 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Escapees
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Originally Posted by cimplexsound
I have decided living in an RV park is just not for me. More than not it gets over crowded and very stressful late for me late in the snowbird season because any breathing room or elbow space is quite literally gone. And when it gets crowded people start acting out like angry passengers on a commercial airline flight. At my age??No thanks. So next winter I would like to invest in private land with a sign posted in capital letters, NO CAMPING ALLOWED, except for myself of course. But I would like to know. What are the ins and outs of having a private RV pad in Southern Nevada?? How complicated is it to get water, sewer, electric and concrete pad for the Motorhome put in??? Is it worth the work?? Is it worth it to have your own plot of land?? Or is it more hassle than it is worth??? To many health problems to deal with the stress of crowded RV parks. Dry camping is starting to look like heaven to me. Many of the people in this park have a very bad attitude toward boon dockers which I find odd. I love Pahrump dearly but I just want to enjoy it in a more secluded stress free environment and among people that are not so narrow minded. So I am looking for feedback that will help me make a more informed decision. Thank You
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have you looked into Escapees?
I have seen several shade structures covering rv's on lots in the outskirts of Pahrump.
a call to a real estate agent would give you more info. you do not get a guarantee about neighbors anywhere you go.
if you had a lot in Pahrump escapees, you could boondock in the desert at will, returning to the park to dump your holding tanks and resupply periodically.
you need a place to get mail also.
we have stayed in several Skp parks and enjoyed all of them.
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02-16-2016, 11:27 PM
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The costs of putting in all the utilities is directly related to how close the existing utilities in the area are to the lot. Most lots that have utilities to the lot line are going to be more expensive. If the utilities are to the lot line, then the expenses will not be that bad to have them set up on your lot where you want them. If buying a lot without close utilities it could get quite expensive.
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02-16-2016, 11:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike and Cha
The costs of putting in all the utilities is directly related to how close the existing utilities in the area are to the lot. Most lots that have utilities to the lot line are going to be more expensive. If the utilities are to the lot line, then the expenses will not be that bad to have them set up on your lot where you want them. If buying a lot without close utilities it could get quite expensive.
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Cost of land
Cost of installing electric from a utility pole to a drop plus power pedestal
Cost of water system
Cost of a septic tank and leach system
IF.......IF parking/living in an RV is allowed by zoning
Lots of places you can put a mobile home/manufactured home on land but NOT an RV....due to living space sq.ft. requirements
First stop......
City/Country Clerks office and find out about zoning/restrictions
Second stop....
Realtor to check pricing of lots/land
Otherwise........buy into an existing RV Park that sells/deeds developed lots
RV Lots for Sale near Pahrump, NV: 32 Listed
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02-18-2016, 04:44 PM
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Living On A Private Lot In Pahrump -Pros and Cons??
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike and Cha
The costs of putting in all the utilities is directly related to how close the existing utilities in the area are to the lot. Most lots that have utilities to the lot line are going to be more expensive. If the utilities are to the lot line, then the expenses will not be that bad to have them set up on your lot where you want them. If buying a lot without close utilities it could get quite expensive.
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I am defiantly taking the expense into consideration. I am looking at lots because the solitude alone is worth it. In my view part of the snowbird experience is that it should be a relaxing experience. Where each day is filled with a breath of fresh air when you walk out your door. Can't really get that when there's only 4 to 5 feet between you and the neighbors.
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02-18-2016, 08:50 PM
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Been in and through Pahrump a few times this week. I think you could find a lot with the utilities already there from the look of things there. Seems to be alot of abandoned properties. Go ask a realtor to find what you want.
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02-18-2016, 09:12 PM
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Monaco Owners Club Vintage RV Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NevadaNick
Been in and through Pahrump a few times this week. I think you could find a lot with the utilities already there from the look of things there. Seems to be alot of abandoned properties. Go ask a realtor to find what you want.
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Nick, I've lived in Pahrump for 22 years. Where did you see abandoned lots with utilities from the looks of things? There are thousands of acres of privately owned lots here that are not developed.
If you noticed a transformer on a power pole, a septic line cleanout and leach lines on the drive-by you are sharper than I.
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02-19-2016, 08:46 AM
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If you find a lot that does not already have water/sewer then the 'tap' fees if on public services can be a surprising shock. Local fees north of Denver for water/sewer are in the $30-40,000 range. Just crazy expensive.
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02-19-2016, 08:57 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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The last good lot with utilities hasn't been sold yet......keep looking for what you want and you will find it. Sanford
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02-19-2016, 09:06 AM
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I share your feelings on crowded RV Parks. When my fulltime travels began to slow and I was spending extended seasonal stays in RV Parks, I wasn't enjoying it, for the same reasons you stated. So I did as you are thinking, I developed 3 different raw land parcels, in my favorite areas of the west, into RV Homebases. I still travel and use RV Park's for short stays while on the road, but for extended breaks in between, I head for my own land.
The primary question to answer first, does the local County zoning & land use rules allow for living in an RV. some do, many don't, some limit it to 90 days, some require the property have some other habitable structure before allowing the RV use as a secondary living quarters, all will require a permitted water well & septic sys, etc. I don't know anything specific about Pahrump NV, you have to investigate the rules at the County Building Dept.
Many rural areas of the west still allow this. Putting in a standard septic system costs me on avg about $2500. Drilling a water well varies but on avg cost me about $20 a ft for the drilling, plus the pump & equipment costs. The big cost is usually electricity and that depends on how close/far the nearest electric line is located. I've paid $5000-$10,000 to get power service on site, when an existing line was within .5 mile. I know others have paid up to $50,000 to have the power company build a new line from farther away.
Alternately you can install solar, wind and battery sys, depending on your needs.
"tap fees" aren't going to apply, because if you're close enough to public water & sewer lines, then you can be sure that living in an RV on private land will be prohibited.
An in between alternate would be to look into purchasing or leasing an RV lot in an already developed RV facility that has more elbow room than the typical RV Park.
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02-19-2016, 10:19 AM
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Look on Zillow and put the price at 50k or less and start asking questions. Sam60, just my observations. I have bought and sold in Nv many times and am always looking. Example is i bought a 3bd 1bath 2car house in Hawthorne for 26k. You just have to look.
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