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Old 06-02-2020, 05:09 PM   #1
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Looking for info removing ceiling speakers

2017 Sunseeker GTS 2800. I have 4 ceiling speakers with a white trim ring and a white speaker grill insert. I have tried semi gently to use a small pointed object to pull the covers out. No luck at all. There are no screws visible because the are under the grill.
I am hoping someone has done this before and can offer some advice to me. I do not want to damage the covers but they are sure in there tight.

Thanks for any advice. I need to change the speakers hopefully before my month long trip in 2 weeks.
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If you need the change the speakers, then more force is in order. You might have to break the trim rings to get to the screws.
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Old 06-02-2020, 08:57 PM   #3
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If itís a perforated metal grill, use a bent paper clip to hook into the grill cover and gently pull down. You may need to work your way around the grill pulling in different places.
If that doesnít work, Iíve used an automotive trim removal tool or even a butter knife to gently go around the edge to loosen the grill.
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The screws are under the grill.
Most speakers you don't remove the screws all the way. The screws usually go into some L plastic brackets that swing once loose so allow the speaker to clear the smaller ceiling hole.
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The screws are under the grill.
Most speakers you don't remove the screws all the way. The screws usually go into some L plastic brackets that swing once loose so allow the speaker to clear the smaller ceiling hole.
DavL is right on. You need to pull the grill out. Tiny screw driver to slowly work it out. Once out, you'll see the screws. Maybe 2 or 3 full turns CCW for each screw (usually 3) and speaker will fall right down. You don't need to remove the screws all the way.
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Thank you for the replies. I assumed the grill needed to come out first. I guess I need to apply more force. I was being gentle because I did not want to damage the ceiling or enclosure. I will try again this afternoon.
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OK I got one out. The grill finally popped off and I was able to remove the speaker. It has some type of electronics with 3 wires going to the speakers. I believe it is the crossover for the tweeter. So 2 wires from the audio + and - going to the crossover. 3 wires out + and -, and a black wire.
I plan to use the + and - straight to the new speakers eliminating the crossover thing. Am I missing something here? A few photos below.
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Correct (assuming the red, black, and yellow wires in your picture all connect to the speaker). Just use the two white wires for the new speaker. If you have room, and are so inclined, a bit of insulation attached to the plywood behind the speaker will help with bass response. Be sure the insulation doesn't touch the speaker cone or it could affect the sound.
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I am using these items for the install. The old Chinese speakers actually don't look too bad but they are rated for 8 ohms. The new speakers are 4 ohm so hopefully will get a better volume and sound from them. I may need to use different grills. The are painted solid. I don't know how any sound was getting through the grills. Thanks for all the tips.

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Sounds good as long as your amplifier can handle a 4 ohm load.
At least you have room behind the speakers. When I upgraded my dash stereo overhead speakers I had just over 2Ē of clearance so I had to make spacers and slip them under the headliner to give me enough clearance for even a shallow mount speaker. Ah, the joy of upgrades
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