Mouse proof?

[NXR]

Have you tried turning on every light inside and then crawling around underneath at night? You might see some light shining through somewhere. Open all inside doors first to let light into the cabinets, etc.

Ray

[CountryB]

Originally Posted by RKins

Here is the mouse proof stuff. Be advised that it takes a few hours to expand fully, so if you spray it into a place from underneath the coach it may run back out before expanding.

If it is a legitimate test, why don't they show the "other" brand's name?
Nothing to hide is the test is repeatable.

[RKins]

Originally Posted by CountryB

If it is a legitimate test, why don't they show the "other" brand's name?
Nothing to hide is the test is repeatable.

I am thinking that normal foam allows them to smell through it, this foam is very dense. In the video you see the mice try to smell through it and can't. I still don't have any problems with rodents in the house. So it works, IMO.

[astrnmrtom]

Looks like a new product and I was unable to find a copy of the label to see what the "special treatment" is. The SDS only lists chemicals that seem common to urethane foams. Some are irritants, but that could be the volatiles, so who knows. Could be as simple as the foam being a little more dense that regular foam. If it contains any type of pesticide it must have an EPA registration number on the label. I've used the stuff labeled as "Pest Block" and right on the label it says it doesn't contain any pesticide. Keep in mind "pesticide" does not always mean "poison."

I guess if it was me, and I was standing in front of a shelf full of expanding foam and wanting to use it to help deter mice, I'd grab it over regular foam. Might be all marketing but it really doesn't matter because the main effect is sealing up a hole which will deter most pests. A lot of the success depends on the pest pressure. If a pest population, and competition for resources is high, that's when you get rodents chewing their way in, and no brand of foam will stop them. I like to stuff the hole with coarse steel wool and then inject the foam. Think of it like locking the doors to your house or car. Won't stop a determined thief with a crow bar, but it will deter a "crime of opportunity." With wild animals trying to survive it's all about energy in, vs energy out. By plugging any easy access points you are banking on the fact it'll take the animal less energy to look elsewhere, than it will to try to force it's way in. Low pest pressure = casual thief, high pest pressure = determined thief with a crowbar.

The best way to deal with mice is, Keep your food sealed up when you are using the rig and remove it when you aren't, then exclude (seal), bait outside, and trap/monitor inside. Be thorough plugging the holes because leaving a small opening where they can smell something beyond will invite chewing. It's what they do. Lastly, never assume you've won the battle. Make inspecting your rig for entry points part of your yearly maintenance.

Good luck.

[mrsportys]

Originally Posted by Ray,IN

I maintain a supply of TomCat mouse bait dropped into every wiring and plumbing hole in the floor, a block in each basement storage compartment.
I've been rodent-free ever since.

Even chipmunks?

[mrsportys]

Originally Posted by astrnmrtom

Looks like a new product and I was unable to find a copy of the label to see what the "special treatment" is. The SDS only lists chemicals that seem common to urethane foams. Some are irritants, but that could be the volatiles, so who knows. Could be as simple as the foam being a little more dense that regular foam. If it contains any type of pesticide it must have an EPA registration number on the label. I've used the stuff labeled as "Pest Block" and right on the label it says it doesn't contain any pesticide. Keep in mind "pesticide" does not always mean "poison."



I guess if it was me, and I was standing in front of a shelf full of expanding foam and wanting to use it to help deter mice, I'd grab it over regular foam. Might be all marketing but it really doesn't matter because the main effect is sealing up a hole which will deter most pests. A lot of the success depends on the pest pressure. If a pest population, and competition for resources is high, that's when you get rodents chewing their way in, and no brand of foam will stop them. I like to stuff the hole with coarse steel wool and then inject the foam. Think of it like locking the doors to your house or car. Won't stop a determined thief with a crow bar, but it will deter a "crime of opportunity." With wild animals trying to survive it's all about energy in, vs energy out. By plugging any easy access points you are banking on the fact it'll take the animal less energy to look elsewhere, than it will to try to force it's way in. Low pest pressure = casual thief, high pest pressure = determined thief with a crowbar.



The best way to deal with mice is, Keep your food sealed up when you are using the rig and remove it when you aren't, then exclude (seal), bait outside, and trap/monitor inside. Be thorough plugging the holes because leaving a small opening where they can smell something beyond will invite chewing. It's what they do. Lastly, never assume you've won the battle. Make inspecting your rig for entry points part of your yearly maintenance.



Good luck.

I use 8-10 mouse traps with cheese and peanut butter. Usually get the mice.
This spring I’ve had problems with chipmunks , although they don’t destroy anything they bring their own food, acorns. And leave a mess in everything. We just found behind the sound-bar for the tv.

[Charming]

Over the winter a critter got into our motorhome. We completely emptied out food for the winter so 5hat was not the attraction. It made a nest in the bedroom drawers. Nasty mess. We have discovered some of the overhead lights in the living/dining area are not working. Concidence?

[astrnmrtom]

Rodent and most other pests are looking for three things to survive, food water and shelter. Even without food or water, if they find access to the inside of the rig, they have some of the best shelter available, dry, cozy and unless a predator can get in, very safe. It's a mouse mansion.

While baited traps are a good way to capture rodents that get in, they are in fact an attractant. Mice and rats work by smell and varying winds and air pressure can cause your rig to "breathe" through any openings. Sealing the holes is more for blocking air transfer, (smells) and making entry a little tougher, than about actually physically making it impossible for them to get in. The best solution is bait outside, seal any entry points, and monitor with sticky traps. Sticky traps don't attract. Even if you take all the food out of your rig and clean it well, it can still smell like food to a sensitive little nose. Second best is doing the first two steps and monitor with a couple baited traps. Unfortunately the most important step is by far the hardest, sealing up the rig. Ain't fun, ain't easy, but it's still the most important.

[RKins]

I think my BBQ was attracting rodents. Now I clean it up with oven cleaner before storing it and it seems to help not attract them.