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Old 07-17-2021, 07:05 AM   #1
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Need Help with Slideout (not enough torque to start open)

Hi, I have a 2007 Itasca Sunova 35J, issue with the Bedroom Slideout.

I need to manually engage the Slideout about 1” with provided long wrenches.
At that point I can use the power system and fully extend the bedroom with in coach panel button.

Also I get a full closure with the in coach power system.

I get a code of 13 flashes upon final closure.

This is a kwikee system.

I want to make this repair myself, and would like some advice on what steps I should take to further diagnose the issue.

On a side note, I do remember that I hoped to never need to use the manual Slideout tools, and thought that if the Slideout ever failed while camping it would really suck. I gotta say, that the experience was much smoother than I anticipated.
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Old 07-17-2021, 07:25 AM   #2
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I've started not running slides not fully extended and retracted to avoid jamming. Try this.
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Old 07-17-2021, 07:30 AM   #3
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I had the same set on my 2008 Sunova and still had this handy if it helps.

https://lci-support-doc.s3.amazonaws...3010000798.pdf

13 flashes is “ 13.No Encoder Signal detected on Front Actuator”.
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I've started not running slides not fully extended and retracted to avoid jamming. Try this.
You mean driving on the road with about 1” slide out? No issues with movement beyond where you left it? I guess if it’s on a screw it won’t move beyond that point.
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I had the same set on my 2008 Sunova and still had this handy if it helps.

https://lci-support-doc.s3.amazonaws...3010000798.pdf

13 flashes is “ 13.No Encoder Signal detected on Front Actuator”.
Thanks, now I need to figure the encoder signal, I hope it’s just a connection that’s at fault.
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I opened up my Slideout today, same method. Looks like front arm motor and actuator is located above the fuel tank. I am having a hard time believing that I would need to remove the fuel tank to access….

I’m just at a point that I don’t know what to do next. Probably just live with the manual process. Although I want to sell it, and have it operating properly beforehand.
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Old 07-18-2021, 06:33 AM   #7
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Not aure I’d this will be a help to you or not, but Winnie has the drawings for your coach online, the rear slide starts on page 117. If you were already under the rig it might not tell you anything you don’t already know but wanted to post just in case.

https://www.winnebago.com/Files/File...07/7wfd35j.pdf

My only other thought, a few people here on the site have had the same issue, some had to replace the encoder and some were able to just reset things, I can’t seem to be able to get a link for my search resu,tw for you, but if you go up to the top to the search function and search for “Kwikee digiaync encoder failure” there are several treads. I couldn’t find a “smoking gun” one to link you in there but you might have better luck then I did finding a solution. A few seem to say that swapping out the encoder wasn’t too painful, but I couldn’t find posts on a 35J so the motor could have been in different spots for them.

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Maybe it's too simple but Winnie's want the engine running when moving the slides.
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Maybe it's too simple but Winnie's want the engine running when moving the slides.

I wish, I always have it running, just because it seems like a big draw on the grid.
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Not aure I’d this will be a help to you or not, but Winnie has the drawings for your coach online, the rear slide starts on page 117. If you were already under the rig it might not tell you anything you don’t already know but wanted to post just in case.

https://www.winnebago.com/Files/File...07/7wfd35j.pdf

My only other thought, a few people here on the site have had the same issue, some had to replace the encoder and some were able to just reset things, I can’t seem to be able to get a link for my search resu,tw for you, but if you go up to the top to the search function and search for “Kwikee digiaync encoder failure” there are several treads. I couldn’t find a “smoking gun” one to link you in there but you might have better luck then I did finding a solution. A few seem to say that swapping out the encoder wasn’t too painful, but I couldn’t find posts on a 35J so the motor could have been in different spots for them.

Good luck!

Thanks, good diagram shown of the parts. I’m going to try disconnecting the wire harness and maybe replace. Or maybe I could just switch the feeds at control panel to diagnose.
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Most slide problems= low, weak, or bad battery?
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Most slide problems= low, weak, or bad battery?

Ok, maybe but no problems with living room Slideout. I’ll check their charge level to make sure. Do they run off Coach or House?
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Today it worked without an issue, first time in awhile. I put a trickle charger on the cab battery, and lubed the arms. So not sure, but I’m guessing it had to do with the battery as stated above.
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Only other thought, the Winnie manual recommends only running the slides with the engine running. The motors take a fair amount of “juice” and it’s recommended to have the engine running so the alternator is charging the batteries at the same time.

May be what you were doing but if not I wanted to pass along given the post above.
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