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08-03-2024, 07:18 PM
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Location: GREER, SC
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No 110 volt power to some outlets
Apparently a previous owner of our 2001 Monaco Diplomat added a 110 VAC circuit to add some outlets under the overhead cupboards & in the bedroom. During our pre-purchase inspection, I had verified that all outlets were working but some time after getting the MH home, the outlets under the cupboards & bedroom stopped working. I verified that it made no difference whether it was on shore power or generator. I used a cable tracker (purchased from Harbor Freight for about $15) to verify that all of the outlets were on the same circuit that went to the main circuit breaker panel, but couldn't tell which breaker controlled it. So, I cycled all of the breakers to no avail. After several more hours of testing & trouble shooting, I sat on the bed staring at the circuit breaker panel; there is one breaker labeled "Block Heater" that I had turned off some time ago, thinking that there was no need to have the block heater on. Out of curiosity, I flipped it on &, sure enough, that new circuit had been tied into the block heater circuit. Perhaps somewhere down the road my experience will save someone else several hours of trouble shooting.
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08-03-2024, 07:49 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Glad you figured it out.
We have owned 8 houses and none of them had correct labels on the breaker panels. I guess RVs are no different.
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08-05-2024, 08:55 PM
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Don't you hate it when someone modifies something and leaves no indication of the change?
That's why I always try to go with the OEM design and just make repairs as needed.
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08-07-2024, 06:32 PM
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Gulf Streamers Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: Memphis, TN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray,IN
Don't you hate it when someone modifies something and leaves no indication of the change?
That's why I always try to go with the OEM design and just make repairs as needed.
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Or the lady who removed all labels including all safety warning labels "because they did not go well with the decor..."
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08-07-2024, 06:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldenavy
Glad you figured it out.
We have owned 8 houses and none of them had correct labels on the breaker panels. I guess RVs are no different.
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Panel labeling can be a two edged sword. One should never, ever bet their life on what somebody wrote next to a breaker yet DIYs do it all the time, shut it off and go to work on it without checking with a meter. In the business we use the panel labeling as a "clue" but never to take as gospel.
The recent code changes for more accurate labeling (ie: no more "general lights and plugs", everything has to be detailed) can make it even more dangerous for those without a meter or the skills to use it, at least with the general labeling it forces you to check.
There was a plumber here electrocuted when changing out an electric water heater, he switched off the breaker labeled "water heater" and didn't verify with a meter. It was mis-labeled.
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2000 Jeep TJ toad
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08-07-2024, 06:52 PM
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Gulf Streamers Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: Memphis, TN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigb56
Panel labeling can be a two edged sword. One should never, ever bet their life on what somebody wrote next to a breaker yet DIYs do it all the time, shut it off and go to work on it without checking with a meter. In the business we use the panel labeling as a "clue" but never to take as gospel.
The recent code changes for more accurate labeling (ie: no more "general lights and plugs", everything has to be detailed) can make it even more dangerous for those without a meter or the skills to use it, at least with the general labeling it forces you to check.
There was a plumber here electrocuted when changing out an electric water heater, he switched off the breaker labeled "water heater" and didn't verify with a meter. It was mis-labeled.
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and then there is the breaker that contacts welded shut, or a dual where one side welded shut...
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