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Old 08-03-2024, 07:18 PM   #1
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No 110 volt power to some outlets

Apparently a previous owner of our 2001 Monaco Diplomat added a 110 VAC circuit to add some outlets under the overhead cupboards & in the bedroom. During our pre-purchase inspection, I had verified that all outlets were working but some time after getting the MH home, the outlets under the cupboards & bedroom stopped working. I verified that it made no difference whether it was on shore power or generator. I used a cable tracker (purchased from Harbor Freight for about $15) to verify that all of the outlets were on the same circuit that went to the main circuit breaker panel, but couldn't tell which breaker controlled it. So, I cycled all of the breakers to no avail. After several more hours of testing & trouble shooting, I sat on the bed staring at the circuit breaker panel; there is one breaker labeled "Block Heater" that I had turned off some time ago, thinking that there was no need to have the block heater on. Out of curiosity, I flipped it on &, sure enough, that new circuit had been tied into the block heater circuit. Perhaps somewhere down the road my experience will save someone else several hours of trouble shooting.
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Glad you figured it out.

We have owned 8 houses and none of them had correct labels on the breaker panels. I guess RVs are no different.
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Don't you hate it when someone modifies something and leaves no indication of the change?

That's why I always try to go with the OEM design and just make repairs as needed.
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Don't you hate it when someone modifies something and leaves no indication of the change?

That's why I always try to go with the OEM design and just make repairs as needed.
Or the lady who removed all labels including all safety warning labels "because they did not go well with the decor..."
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Glad you figured it out.

We have owned 8 houses and none of them had correct labels on the breaker panels. I guess RVs are no different.
Panel labeling can be a two edged sword. One should never, ever bet their life on what somebody wrote next to a breaker yet DIYs do it all the time, shut it off and go to work on it without checking with a meter. In the business we use the panel labeling as a "clue" but never to take as gospel.

The recent code changes for more accurate labeling (ie: no more "general lights and plugs", everything has to be detailed) can make it even more dangerous for those without a meter or the skills to use it, at least with the general labeling it forces you to check.

There was a plumber here electrocuted when changing out an electric water heater, he switched off the breaker labeled "water heater" and didn't verify with a meter. It was mis-labeled.
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Panel labeling can be a two edged sword. One should never, ever bet their life on what somebody wrote next to a breaker yet DIYs do it all the time, shut it off and go to work on it without checking with a meter. In the business we use the panel labeling as a "clue" but never to take as gospel.

The recent code changes for more accurate labeling (ie: no more "general lights and plugs", everything has to be detailed) can make it even more dangerous for those without a meter or the skills to use it, at least with the general labeling it forces you to check.

There was a plumber here electrocuted when changing out an electric water heater, he switched off the breaker labeled "water heater" and didn't verify with a meter. It was mis-labeled.
and then there is the breaker that contacts welded shut, or a dual where one side welded shut...
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