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01-25-2018, 06:23 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Texas
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Over weight and under "Stuffed"
For the second time I had my 15 Discovery DP weighed, this time at the Escapees Smart Weigh.
And again we were over weight on the rear by 200 lbs. Light on the front by 1000 lbs.
We carry very little stuff, all basement compartments are less than 1/2 full.
I'm mindful of everything we put in. Light weight as possible, replacements usually lighter than prior stuff. ie. Plastic steps versus wood.
Overweight is dangerous especially when trying to stop. And hard on equipment. Many tires under inflated.
In our must have society every RV I see is stuffed to the gills.
Please get yours weighed.
CAT scales at truck stops are about $10.
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01-25-2018, 09:26 AM
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Wow, although 200 pounds isn't much (about the weight of 25 gallons of water), who would think that a big diesel pusher like yours, with a high GVWR would be overloaded, while being (in your case) lightly loaded.
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01-25-2018, 09:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mich F
Wow, although 200 pounds isn't much (about the weight of 25 gallons of water), who would think that a big diesel pusher like yours, with a high GVWR would be overloaded, while being (in your case) lightly loaded.
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Yeah, you would think that but, it's not all that uncommon. Our coach, an '04 Itasca Horizon 36GD with the C-7 330HP CAT, has a 17,500 # rear GAWR and, a 10,410 # front GAWR. When we had our Hydralift on the back and carrying a 2008 Honda GL 1800 Goldwing, I was 2,100 # OVER WEIGHT on the rear axle. Nobody died, the sun and moon didn't disappear, there were no catastrofes on any of America's highways 'cause I was overweight at that time, about 8,000 miles worth.
But, we've changed our way of operation and have been towing our GMC Sierra 1500 Extended Cab 4x4 which now carries the bike. But, I have weighed our coach once or twice AFTER the removal of that Hydralift system, and, while on the road, traveling, I've been still over the rear axle weight limits.
Just because it's a diesel pusher, doesn't mean you're unlimited in loading it for travel. Some are built in such a manor (like the OPs) that, they roll out of the factory sitting very close to the rear axle weight limits. Some, have lots of additional load carrying capability.
Scott
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01-25-2018, 05:13 PM
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Fiesta48
That is hard to believe. I have a 2017 Discovery LXE 40D and I have 24,000 rear axle and 12,400 pounds front axle and 36400 GVWR. Scaled with loaded for a 30 day trip here is my numbers:
2017 Discovery LXE 40D
FAWR weight 11,260 rating 12,400 = +1140
RAWR weight 21,580 rating 24,000 = +2420
GVWR weight 32,840 rating 36,400 = +3,560
GCWR weight 36,860 rating 46,400 = +7540
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01-26-2018, 11:54 AM
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Fiesta48, how much do the 2 bikes weigh hanging off the rear end? Also, what are your actual weighed numbers by axle?
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01-28-2018, 01:40 PM
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You didn't mention the OCCC from the factory, the amount of carrying capacity left after the coach was built. It is not always a lot, even with a high GVWR. The time to check OCCC is before you buy, not at the scales later, when it is too late to avoid the problem.
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01-28-2018, 06:24 PM
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The time to check OCCC is before you buy, not at the scales later, when it is too late to avoid the problem.
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