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12-06-2024, 01:57 PM
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Rebuilt title
Hello, I’m looking at a motorhome with a Rebuild title.
It’s in excellent condition and low miles!
The problem was a burned up control board and had to be repaired! The seller bought the motorhome from an insurance company and is now selling it with a rebuilt title!
My question is how dose that affect the purchase price and resale value later on?
Thanks for any advice you can offer!
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12-06-2024, 02:38 PM
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Cliff note version, you’ll pay less, you’ll sell for less. I see it as a wash. You can get into one cheaper than otherwise. This providing there are not other underlying issues. Then it could cost more. You gotta know exactly what happened and what was done
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12-06-2024, 03:12 PM
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Seems odd that the insurance company couldn't fix it for the original owner and someone was able to buy it and fix it.
I would want to know which board burned up and how it was repaired.
In the ~2009 timeframe some manufacturers started using a Kongsburg multiplex system and the parts are pretty much obsolete.
Only recently a tech person has been able to reverse engineer the programming and is now fixing these system.
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12-06-2024, 03:16 PM
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Make sure you can insure a rebuilt title vehicle. My understanding is that some companies won't cover it.
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12-06-2024, 03:23 PM
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Be careful many items / vehicles are being resold from the storms earlier this year that caused devastation & flooding. I’d be sure to get an inspection done b4 making a purchase.
JMHO
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12-06-2024, 05:04 PM
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I'd look at the price of comparable ones without a rebuilt title. I have a feeling the seller won't give much of a break for changing a board. But you're going to take the hit in price for a rebuilt title when it's time to sell.
I'd also want to see the repair. It does seem sort of far fetched but if he can show you that and it looks like it was done correctly maybe it was the reason. I'd still take my time going over the body and interior just to make sure.
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12-06-2024, 07:16 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club
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look it over GOOD...
then research what you have to do to get a title/plate in your state,, also ask insurance carrier if they will insure...
once titled the resell may hurt but older rig , wont matter much... imo...
If I buy a fixer up, especially with a R title.. it needs to be cheap... or a barn find sweet vehicle..
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12-07-2024, 12:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbw330
Hello, I’m looking at a motorhome with a Rebuild title.
It’s in excellent condition and low miles!
The problem was a burned up control board and had to be repaired! The seller bought the motorhome from an insurance company and is now selling it with a rebuilt title!
My question is how dose that affect the purchase price and resale value later on?
Thanks for any advice you can offer!
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It dose have the multiplex system that’s what burned, it was the panel under the drivers seat in the bay. The insurance wrote it off as a total loss the seller managed to repair the system
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12-07-2024, 12:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbw330
It dose have the multiplex system that’s what burned, it was the panel under the drivers seat in the bay. The insurance wrote it off as a total loss the seller managed to repair the system
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An insurance claim for a failed electrical component or system? And for that to be a total loss.
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12-07-2024, 12:47 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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I've bought and sold several vehicles with a rebuilt title. They buy and sell for less, it's a wash. With the "quality" coming from the factory, a rebuilt vehicle rebuilt correctly is likely better than what the UAW workforce produced (2" screw where a 3/8" screw was called for). The crap workmanship I continue to find continues to amaze me.
Latest find, the linkage to my generator slide was backwards, making adjustment a PIA. I reversed the linkage so the turnbuckles are accessible makes it so much better.
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12-07-2024, 01:26 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
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A description of the coach would have some impact on the answers you're getting. If it's a $5K motorhome, not a big risk regarding resale. If it's a $150K motorhome, I would make sure it can be insured and titled in your state.
Resale will only be an issue if you intend to spin it off. If it's a nice coach and you intend to keep, who cares.
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12-07-2024, 01:43 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbw330
It dose have the multiplex system that’s what burned, it was the panel under the drivers seat in the bay. The insurance wrote it off as a total loss the seller managed to repair the system
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Can you give us the make model year coach.
The Kongsburg system was put into use ~2009. Here is a post on one instance
https://www.irv2.com/forums/f115/kon...te-629735.html
But this all hinges on the one individual who has been able to fix the modules.
A lot of manufacturers went bankrupt in 2009/10 so parts are harder to find.
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12-07-2024, 02:36 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d23haynes57
An insurance claim for a failed electrical component or system? And for that to be a total loss.
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Not unusual if no parts available and nobody with the skills to make a credible diagnosis & repair estimate. If the multiplex system ended up being unfixable, the cost of replacing with a manual switching system would be astronomical. Insurers don't like unknowns in repair costs, so they total it to give them a known cost to settle the claim. But a capable tech working on his own time (rather than $175/hour shop rates) might be able to isolate the problem (even if it took him 20 or 50 hours of his personal work) and maybe even solder in a new component on the failing board. The fix isn't always expensive once it is found.
But the next buyer or dealer trade-in only sees the REBUILT on the title and has no clue whether it was fire or flood or whatever. They have to assume the worst, so there is a major value reduction.
Ditto for an insurer when you try to buy insurance, especially collision & comprehensive. They don't know what they might be assuming responsibility for, so many just say No.
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Former owner of 2004 American Tradition and several other RVs
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12-07-2024, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbw330
Hello, I’m looking at a motorhome with a Rebuild title.
It’s in excellent condition and low miles!
The problem was a burned up control board and had to be repaired! The seller bought the motorhome from an insurance company and is now selling it with a rebuilt title!
My question is how dose that affect the purchase price and resale value later on?
Thanks for any advice you can offer!
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