Secondary power plugin for RV parks?

[trashman1995]

Originally Posted by jcgribks

That's why I changed my 96 Itasca w/ 30 amp. I didn't want another cord to plug in and as others have said some campgrounds don't like you to have 2 cords plugged in.
I added a 50 amp automatic transfer switch and a pair of breakers along with a 50 amp cord. The output from the ATS has one leg going through a 30 amp breaker and is supplying the factory RV circuit breakers (30 amp main breaker) and the other ATS output leg is going through a 20 amp breaker and them goes directly to my rear AC which I isolated form the factory wiring.
I still have my factory 30 amp cord inside the side door as it was they type that you had to plug the cord back into a outlet that the generator supplies. If I ever get into a place that doesn't have 50 amp service, I can still hook up using my original 30 amp cord. I just won't have any rear air.

That is great information, and something I want to do.Do you have a picture of how you did this? Or a diagram. Thank you. Trashman1995

[jcgribks]

50A WIRING Model.pdf
Here is a pdf diagram on how I did it plus I''try and add some pictures.
Here's a the weatherproof outlet cover installed in the generator compartment


I drilled a hole between the generator compartment and the rear storage area
and ran the 6/3-8/1 wire

Here is my 50a Automatic Transfer Switch along side my 70a double breaker box

Inside the 70a box showing the 30a and 20a breakers.

[Murf2u]

Originally Posted by Zoafan

I was also thinking I could make a T connection on the rear AC so I have the ability to disconnect it from the chassis system and plug it in directly to the extra 50amp system. Has anyone done this?

Be careful with T connections in a circuit like that, it would be pretty easy to have the new plug back-fed by that T connection, in which case the prongs of the second male plug could be inadvertently made 'hot'.

That could make for a very bad day for someone.

[d_elegance]

Originally Posted by Murf2u

Be careful with T connections in a circuit like that, it would be pretty easy to have the new plug back-fed by that T connection, in which case the prongs of the second male plug could be inadvertently made 'hot'.

That could make for a very bad day for someone.

Your pdf diagram is not showing up on the site. Can you send it to me if you still have it available? Thank you.

[BFlinn181]

Originally Posted by d_elegance

Your pdf diagram is not showing up on the site. Can you send it to me if you still have it available? Thank you.

Wow, a 4 year old thread! At the top of jcgribks post #16 is an underlined link to the PDF, 50A WIRING Model.pdf. A click on that underlined link should download a PDF to your computer. It worked for me just now.

[PanJH]

Originally Posted by H. Miller

Many parks have rules against 2 power cords coming out of their power pedestal.

I've never seen that restriction. In addition to my normal 50 amp cord, I frequently plug in a separate 20 amp cord to power my electric grill.

[BFlinn181]

Originally Posted by PanJH

I've never seen that restriction. In addition to my normal 50 amp cord, I frequently plug in a separate 20 amp cord to power my electric grill.

I'd think you've been lucky, it's generally NOT allowed. Since it's only for your electric grill, do you leave it plugged in the entire stay at the campsite or only when cooking?

[HD4Mark]

Originally Posted by BFlinn181

I'd think you've been lucky, it's generally NOT allowed. Since it's only for your electric grill, do you leave it plugged in the entire stay at the campsite or only when cooking?

I connect our smoker to the unused 30 amp plugs all of the time. Nothing has ever been said about it but I do not leave it plugged in.

[BFlinn181]

In campgrounds where there is a different charge for 30 or 50 amp service, only paying for 30 amps and hooking to two outlets will usually be caught.

[PanJH]

Originally Posted by BFlinn181

I'd think you've been lucky, it's generally NOT allowed. Since it's only for your electric grill, do you leave it plugged in the entire stay at the campsite or only when cooking?

Generally, I don't leave it plugged in. But that's not always the case. We've been in CG's in 47 of the 48 lower states over that past few years and have never had anyone comment.. not a big deal, just saying how it is for us.

[d_elegance]

Originally Posted by BFlinn181

Wow, a 4 year old thread! At the top of jcgribks post #16 is an underlined link to the PDF, 50A WIRING Model.pdf. A click on that underlined link should download a PDF to your computer. It worked for me just now.

Wow, a 4 year old thread? I beleave the question was for the person that posted the pdf not you so no need to comment.

[BFlinn181]

Originally Posted by d_elegance

Wow, a 4 year old thread? I beleave the question was for the person that posted the pdf not you so no need to comment.

Just surprised it wasn't closed for additional posts. I verified the link to the PDF was still good, did you get it to download? I don't mind commenting, especially if it helps someone.

[Murf2u]

Originally Posted by Murf2u

Be careful with T connections in a circuit like that, it would be pretty easy to have the new plug back-fed by that T connection, in which case the prongs of the second male plug could be inadvertently made 'hot'.

That could make for a very bad day for someone.

Originally Posted by d_elegance

Your pdf diagram is not showing up on the site. Can you send it to me if you still have it available? Thank you.

Originally Posted by BFlinn181

Wow, a 4 year old thread! At the top of jcgribks post #16 is an underlined link to the PDF, 50A WIRING Model.pdf. A click on that underlined link should download a PDF to your computer. It worked for me just now.

Originally Posted by d_elegance

Wow, a 4 year old thread? I beleave the question was for the person that posted the pdf not you so no need to comment.

Ummmm, no, actually it wasn't.

You asked me, not the person who posted the (still working) link to the PDF.