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Old 04-19-2023, 10:35 PM   #1
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Exclamation slide rivet replacement advice wanted

I am seeing some missing rivets around my slides on my 2020 coachman leprechaun 260 DS. Can I repair these myself? I would I I guess remove the broken rivet and replace it is something I can do myself or should try I’m very mechanically inclined, or I’m willing to give it a try. I have removed stuck bolts and used a tap and die and all that , and stuff before but I just wanted to see if anybody had some advice on how to do this properly


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Old 04-20-2023, 01:55 AM   #2
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If the head is broke off the rivet you can just barley drill it and it fall through the back, some may have already.Im not sure but must be 1/8' or 5/32" you can tell by the center. If you cant tell the difference look at some in store. Do they seem alum or stainless. IF alum. an S.S. rivet will be stronger but standard SS rivet will need more strength to pop. This could deform a layer of material underneath ...like alum skin over luan. fiberglass/composite panel. I cant see what your working on . Then you need to find rough length. I'm sure you can find a short guidelines to help pick right length.. If i wonder stuff like that I often look up in Mcmaster Carr. I don't need an encyclopedia ,just basic rule of thumb.Just a guess you cant see the backside,correct? There are washers for backside of rivets as well . Google drill out rivet, how to rivet. pick video.
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I am seeing some missing rivets around my slides on my 2020 coachman leprechaun 260 DS. Can I repair these myself? I would I I guess remove the broken rivet and replace it is something I can do myself or should try I’m very mechanically inclined, or I’m willing to give it a try. I have removed stuck bolts and used a tap and die and all that , and stuff before but I just wanted to see if anybody had some advice on how to do this properly


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Check out the Airstream forum. MANY threads over there on replacing rivets. For blind rivets, you need a rivet tool but they are cheap. As 153stars said, just drill out the old one and install the new one. I did about a dozen interior rivets on my Airstream in 5 years of ownership. Many YouTube videos on the process.

Or, park next to an Airstream next time you travel and ask them. Odds are the owner will have a rivet tool and know how to use it.
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I replaced several rivets on my coach's slides. One or two were large-flange rivets; I eventually found a source: Albany County Fasteners (link here).

I bought a couple hundred rivets and a pneumatic rivet gun from them when I repaired the beltrail in 2020. That was a lot of work.

As mentioned, you'll need to know (as closely as possible) the rivet length, diameter, head size and material.

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1) Common RV rivet materials are aluminum and stainless steel.

2) A hand rivet tool you buy at the box store or auto parts store will usually work with aluminum rivets up to 3/16" diameter. The same tool may work with stainless steel rivets up to 1/8" diameter, or maybe not. To secure stainless steel rivets it's better to use a compound (two-arm) hand tool (similar to this one) or a pneumatic tool.

3) I learned from Albany County Fasteners that each rivet size has an optimum drill bit size to make the hole. For instance, a 3/16" uses a #11 drill bit. In your case, if you're replacing a rivet that doesn't matter as much.

4) A rivet can conduct water from outside to inside. Be sure to apply caulk in the rivet hole and the backside of the head, and then apply caulk over the hole in the center of the rivet after you've put it in place. For the former I used white polyurethane caulk and for the latter either the same (if in an area that's not visible) or ProFlex RV clear (if in a visible area). If on a roof, completely cover the rivet with Dicor self-leveling lap sealant.

5) Rivet removal is tricky. If you're not careful you can damage the surrounding surface. The easiest method for aluminum rivets is to use a punch to drive the rivet center out the back of the rivet. If the rivet is much longer than it needed to be this won't work well. The next method is to drill out the center of the rivet flange or head. If you do that too aggressively the drill will grab the rivet and spin it, and that makes further drilling almost impossible. When I drill, I try to apply light pressure and slowly increase the drill size. You might also try putting a strong-grip duct tape over the rivet head before drilling, to reduce spinning. For stainless steel rivets you may have to use a grinder to remove the head- with a lot of chance to damage the surrounding surface. In all cases, proceed slowly.

6) For blind holes I have used a probe/pick or piece of wire to determine material thickness so I can select the correct rivet length.

7) Have some touch-up paint ready.

8) While I did not use them for slide repairs, I have used tri-fold or "Oscar" rivets in places where I needed extra strength in a blind rivet. A link to them at Albany County Fasteners is here.

9) Lastly, before doing any rivet work check what's behind or under the rivet, if you can. The piece you drive out of the middle will fall somewhere (to lodge or rattle), and the drilling you do may hit something important, such as cabinetry, ceiling or wiring. Do the slide work with the slide all the way out.
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You can't rivet wood. If there is luan behind it's why the rivets are missing and why it will happen again.


You really need to find out what is layered up to do a repair that will last.
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Do not use stainless rivets in aluminum panels. You will set up galvanic corrosion that will eat up the aluminum. If you do decide on stainless, use a product called Tef Gel as an insulator. Tef Gel is a paste and is easy to work with
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I've used stainless to fasten aluminum for years, even threading aluminum and using stainless bolts and screws with no problems. Galvanic charts show no reaction.


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I've used stainless to fasten aluminum for years, even threading aluminum and using stainless bolts and screws with no problems. Galvanic charts show no reaction.


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It depends on the grade of stainless and aluminum
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You can get aircraft rivets that are aluminum with a stainless steel core rod, if you get closed end blind pop rivets there is no opening in the back either, a drop of gluvit/butyl rubber/whatever sealant on the head and you have something that is pretty damn close to a bucked rivet in strength and water resistance
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