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Old 08-21-2021, 08:02 AM   #1
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Sucking oil change.

I use to be a mechanic back in my younger years, but I haven’t changed my own oil in any vehicle of mine in 35 years! Im just not interested in trying to get under my rig in my physical condition, then deal with getting rid of the oil and the clean up!


I’ve been looking at those harbor freight oil sucking pumps. Has anyone out there been using them on their motor homes? How easy and messy is it to empty? Is the tube long enough for an E450 dipstick tube to reach the bottom of the pan? My filter is pretty easy to access, so I might give it a shot with this. It sure looks like it would be an easy job with one of these!
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Old 08-21-2021, 08:17 AM   #2
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Then you should remember back when oil filters were only changed every second oil change!
But if you are fine with not removing all oil, go for it, just remember you really do not know if you hit 'pan bottom' or if the hose curls back up.
I do not know the F450, but if you feel you can remove the filter, the drain plug should be near by, so do both. The hose method sound just as 'messy' as using a drain pan. The hardest part I think is the clean-up afterwards.


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Old 08-21-2021, 08:31 AM   #3
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If you can access the oil filter on your E 450, the drain plug is basically right next to it and very easy to access as well. Just get an enclosed oil catch basin that has a spout so you can pour the oil back into the old containers. I just take old oil to AutoZone, they recycle it for free.

By the way if you're an older guy like me and your forearms are getting easy to bruise and cut, go on Amazon and get some protective arm sleeves. I've been using them for about a year when I work on vehicles and under sinks, and they are a godsend.

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Old 08-21-2021, 08:37 AM   #4
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Don't get the Pittsburg extractor that you attach an air hose to. It loses suction almost immediately and you have to re air it many times. Also the fittings didn't match any air chucks that I had. I used this once on my boat diesel engines and it took about one and a half hours each engine to draw out the oil! The other ones that are manual work much better. If the hose doesn't make it all the way down to the pan you can buy one that does at a hardware store.

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Old 08-21-2021, 08:55 AM   #5
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I have successfully used an Atwood oil pump on a Chevy or GMC van I had a number of years ago. I couldn't drain the oil because someone had put some type of non-removable plug in the oil pan drain. It worked just fine. Whether it got all of the oil out I'm not sure but if you check your dip stick and then pump the oil out into calibrated containers, think old gallon oil jugs, you should be able to reasonably check if all of the oil was drained or not. As to disposal many places that sell oil have oil disposal facilities, just make sure there are no contaminates in the oil. Good luck.
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Old 08-21-2021, 09:35 AM   #6
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You didnít mention the filter. Unless your E450 is different, youíll have to crawl under to change it. I use an old camping pad. I have everything I need within arms reach. I lay down, drain oil, R/R filter, replace plug, push everything back out to the front. This way I only have to crawl under once. Iím no spring chicken, but Iíll do it as long as I still can.

I of course donít know your physical condition, so if you canít do it I understand. If I was in that position, Iíd pay someone else to do it. After all, thatís what son-in-laws are for right?
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If you do elect to do it yourself the regular way, consider installing a Fumoto valve in place of the crankcase plug. If you get the one with the nipple on it, you can push a clear PVC hose over it and stick it right in the drain pan/jug. I just did my F53 that way.
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I use the oil vac pump from harbor freight.. get the one that has what looks like a bicycle pump on it and stands about 24in or so.. I have been using mine for many yrs.. I have 1993 e150 conversation van I bought new.. I use 1/4 ice maker tubing and cut about 15ft and attach that to pump.. pump out old trans oil and measure how much I got out and replace.. I change filter once every 5yrs or so.. change trans oil 2yrs.. or sooner if color starts to change.. so easy.. pump paid for itself 1st change.. pump is built with spout to empty.. but wait.. I use is to change p/s, diff, brake, oils.. now yes.. sometimes you don't get all the oil the 1st time.. so you drive it and do again.. what a difference I use it on rv.. cars.. so easy.. I even use it on coolant if I can, some you can't.. I will never go back to old way..
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Harbor freight.. p# 62643 Holt fluid extractor.. and ice maker line plastic.. at least 15 to 20 ft.. boom.. so easy-to-use..
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Harbor freight.. p# 62643 Holt fluid extractor.. and ice maker line plastic.. at least 15 to 20 ft.. boom.. so easy-to-use..
So is a Fumoto valve.

Install it and, your oil changes are now SERIOUSLY easier and more efficient. I installed my Fumoto valve with a full pan and never spilled a single drop of oil. Then, whenever it's time for an oil change, I warm the engine by driving around the block once or twice and, put it up a tad with the jacks and, grab 5 empty milk or Iced Tea jugs and, a piece 5/8" clear vinyl tubing in put it on the Fumoto valve.

I fill one jug, then turn the valve off, slide another jug into position and re-open the valve, fill it and, repeat procedure 'till all jugs are filled. Done! For the filter, punch a hole in the bottom with a sharp punch, let it drain, remove it without getting a drop on myself. Fill the new one and install it.

Yes, getting old is making stuff like this a tad more of a pain than it used to be. But, for the 1/4 days work and a trip down to AutoZone for getting rid of the oil, it's still worth the effort and the savings. I can now put more money into the diesel tank!
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Man am I glad you asked that question. I have a X15 in my coach and have been dreading the thought of draining 15 gallons of oil or whatever this thing holds. Just could envision something going wrong and a major oil spill. Vacuum most of it out then remove drain plug with minimal oil in it.
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I've been using the Fumoto valve on three different DP's for over 10 years. I save the 2.5 gallon jugs that the oil comes in and simply put the old jug, under the Fumoto valve, open the valve and let it drain. When the jug is full, I cap it and drop it off at the local auto parts store. No drain pans, no transferring oil, clean and simple.

For the first oil change, if you don't have empty jugs from a previous change, DEF containers work well, or an old plastic gas can.
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Man am I glad you asked that question. I have a X15 in my coach and have been dreading the thought of draining 15 gallons of oil or whatever this thing holds. Just could envision something going wrong and a major oil spill. Vacuum most of it out then remove drain plug with minimal oil in it.
I tried the one I had on my entegra isx something is blocking the tub from going all the way in , picked up some ice makers line and same issue.
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I used a Topsider for years. Pretty small footprint. You do have to pump it though to create a vacuum for it to suck the oil out. I used to leave the oil in it and then run over to Auto Zone or Walmart and dump it out. No mess. Looked like a blue oil can.


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