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04-26-2013, 06:01 PM
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surge guard/protector
Thinking about buying the 50 amp Surge Guard portable unit to protect the MH. How many of you use this type of unit? Or, do most just trust the campground's power supply?
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04-26-2013, 06:12 PM
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Surge Guard works for surges. That is good, but....
I have a Progressive Industries PT50C for surges, and also to also protect against over/under voltage, which can hammer your electronics. It will also test the CG power and not allow bad power to your rig. It has a lifetime warranty.
I ask you to consider it.
And, never trust the CG power.
Best wishes
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04-26-2013, 06:12 PM
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Welcome, Yes I would recommend that you get one, hardwired or portable is your choice. I hardwired on in my electrical bay, wouldn't be without it! Mine has paided for it self.........
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04-26-2013, 06:13 PM
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Thor Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wyatt earp
Thinking about buying the 50 amp Surge Guard portable unit to protect the MH. How many of you use this type of unit? Or, do most just trust the campground's power supply?
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The last thing you trust, after a lawyer or used car salesmen, is camp power. Get the Surge protector. There's a couple of different ones out there. I personally use the same one your thinking about but I have the hardwired one. The thing to remember I that they not only protect you from power surges, but also from under voltages (Brown outs) which I understand is very harmful to the AC compressor.
It's cheap insurance and like insurance you hope you never have to use it, but when you do, your glad you have it.
Hope this helps,
Stewart
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04-26-2013, 07:07 PM
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Thanks for the reply's thus far, I'm 99.99% sure I'm going to get one, just wanted to hear from anyone who may have the opposing view. I know thousands have gone without one and have never had a problem, but I' on the insurance side of the argument, may never need it, but good to have if you do.
Thanks
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04-26-2013, 07:08 PM
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A must,mine is hard wired inside bay so it doesn't walk away.
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04-26-2013, 07:10 PM
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Was actually just looking at these on the internet. The question I had was can you use the 50 amp surge protector on 30 amp CG power with the proper 50 to 30 adapter.
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04-26-2013, 07:10 PM
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I have a 30 amp Surge Guard and it has probably saved me twice from low voltage in Florida State Park campgrounds. i would not plug in without it.
Bart Anderson
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04-26-2013, 07:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AJB
Was actually just looking at these on the internet. The question I had was can you use the 50 amp surge protector on 30 amp CG power with the proper 50 to 30 adapter.
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Yes, no problem. You can adapt down to 15Amp.
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04-27-2013, 08:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CampDaven
Surge Guard works for surges. That is good, but....
I have a Progressive Industries PT50C for surges, and also to also protect against over/under voltage, which can hammer your electronics. It will also test the CG power and not allow bad power to your rig.
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The product labeled Surge Guard built by TRC does ALL of that too.The TRC and the Progressive are very similarly performing devices. I have used the 50a Surge Guard hard-wired version for 9 years. It was replaced at no charge around the 5-6 year point when it was destroyed by lightning strike in the campground.
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04-27-2013, 09:39 AM
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I would go with the Progressive Industries HW-50C. The Surge Guard may be just as good but PI has a reputation for outstanding customer service, even taking care of problems long after the warranty is out. That means a lot to me!
Good luck, happy trails, and God bless! 
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04-27-2013, 11:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IMDSailor
The last thing you trust, after a lawyer or used car salesmen, is camp power. Get the Surge protector. There's a couple of different ones out there. I personally use the same one your thinking about but I have the hardwired one. The thing to remember I that they not only protect you from power surges, but also from under voltages (Brown outs) which I understand is very harmful to the AC compressor.
It's cheap insurance and like insurance you hope you never have to use it, but when you do, your glad you have it.
Hope this helps,
Stewart
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I understand you intend your comment re: lawyers to be knee slapping funny but I find it to be terribly offensive.
Bar associations go to great lengths to regulate members. My only personal knowledge is the Arizona Bar and yes, I am (was) an active attorney. In AZ, every complaint is examined by independent lawyers (and, yes they ARE independent). They go to great lengths to make sure the client was properly and honestly served by the attorney. Findings to the contrary are turned over to the Bar and State Supreme Court for adjudication which is posted publically.
The punishment is quite harsh, just as you would want.
I rather doubt you would enjoy having your job/profession unjustly besmirched in a like manner, even for a crude joke.
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04-27-2013, 11:36 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MSHappyCampers
I would go with the Progressive Industries HW-50C. The Surge Guard may be just as good but PI has a reputation for outstanding customer service, even taking care of problems long after the warranty is out. That means a lot to me!
Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!  
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Joe,
Progressive Industries started out by having some period of time for their warranty, I can't remember what it was however, they are such a great company with a fantastic product that they decided to give everyone a Lifetime Warranty no matter when you had purchased the unit.
Now that is EXTRAORDINARY customer service!
Their units are SO much better than the TRC ones along with their great warranty and customer service that it is really a no brainer in my book.
One example between the two units is the difference in response time of each manufactures unit when it encounters a dropped out neutral or ground. The PI unit is a very small number of milliseconds whereas the TRC unit will NOT publish their data but will only say that it is adequate.
When it comes to an open neutral, you want the unit to drop power immediately otherwise you will be replacing electronic devices in your coach.
But everyone has their own opinions and choices to make.
Dr4Film ----- Richard
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04-27-2013, 11:49 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Like all products, everyone has their favored brand. Surge Guard and Progressive are both good products and companies. I have used Surge Guard products. They work as advertised. I would make the same purchase again. The products provide the same protection and the specs are very similar. Either product will serve you well.
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