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Old 06-07-2023, 02:51 PM   #1
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Truck Stop - Diesel - Spill - Proper protocol/etiquette

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I stopped at a loves the other day and fueled. The nozzle didn't shutoff when full like is typical but started to overflow. It both overflowed out of the fill but I could see under the motorhome it overflowed as well at the tank. I'm sure it overflowed on the opposite side fill as well.
I caught it pretty quick so it wasn't an enormous spill
In my industrial career, every diesel spill no matter how small was reported to EHS who responded, did a clean up and reported it on regulatory reports.
I don't see any signage at truck stops about spills and usually there a grate under the RV at the pumps, I assume for spills to drain to.
What is the appropriate response? Report the spill to the truck stop? Do they clean up spills or does it happen so often it just goes to a collection sump? Do truck stop workers care?

Thoughts?
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Old 06-07-2023, 03:03 PM   #2
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For sure report it to the front desk, so they can take the pump out of service and clean it up!! Then get the nozzle replaced.........
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Yes, report it to the desk. You've done your part then & it's up to them to decide what they'll do about it.

And thank you for being a good RV-r & wanting to do the right thing. It's rare people care these days.
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Old 06-08-2023, 07:53 AM   #5
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"cleanup on pump #3"
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Back in my HazMat training days, we were told that anything over 5 gallons of fuel was a reportable spill.
Less then that and the station would just clean it up.
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I've gotten to the point where I don't worry so much about topping off the tank. I can hear a roar from my fuel fill as it gets close to full.....less than a gallon left. I shut it off when I hear the roaring.

However, occasionally some spills. I'll typically grab some paper towels if they have them or even pull some from the trash and wipe up what I can. I primarily do it so others don't have to step in it.

On that topic, I use the EFS fuel card on occasion and have found that the best discounts come from TA and Petrol stations. However, I've also found that Petrol stations can be nasty. I keep disposable booties in the step well and just toss them when done.
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I don't RV full time, but in relation to filling station fuel contamination, I feel like I've seen the worst.
First experience was in Amarillo, TX, I was inexperienced at the time. Pulled into the pumps, now I know, if the lane is clean, everythings good. If the lane looks like there's been 5 gal of diesel spread all around, pick another lane.
The lane I was in had diesel all around, but didn't know not to use it. It had the large truck filler valve; I was standing between my filler neck and the pump, as soon as the filler neck was full and the filler valve didn't shut off, diesel sprayed out the filler neck and hit me right about my back pocket and down my leg. At least I was there to immediately shut it off. If I didn't want to get on down the road, I may have offered to exchange the cost of my fill up for not calling the EPA or local Fire Dept. to report the spill that had been going on quite some time. I reported it to the desk, but they couldn't have cared less.

Have a good look at the lane you about to pull through.

Second experience in Missouri, and I had some experience by this time, pulled into the pump lane and they had speedy dry all over the lane, up on the pump island and up against the pump itself. Both lanes for diesel at this smaller station were the same and definitely an indicator that their pumps didn't shut off. In this case I bagged my shoes, listened for the fill sound and stopped the fuel flow. In their defense, a week or so later when I passed back through for fuel, the lanes had been cleaned up, and pumps probably fixed, even though the diesel stained cement was very evident.
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Every fueling station I've ever patronized had a sign saying not to leave the pump nozzle unattended. I to have had a nozzle auto-shut-off fail to work. I was standing there holding the nozzle daydreaming; the back splash soaked me from the chest down before I could manually trip the shut-off lever on the pump.
By law every pump must have a manual shut-off lever separate from the nozzle.
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Old 06-09-2023, 06:32 AM   #10
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I always calculate how much diesel that I should be able to pump. I slow down the pump about 10 gallons before I get to that point.

TAs seem to be the dirtiest.
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