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Old 07-20-2024, 07:34 AM   #15
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A dehumidifier in the shower, a compressor one like 30 or 40 pints, with the hose just draining into the shower would be my preference for a longer duration. Just be certain to leave the gray valve partially open.

If the coach is all closed up (in storage vs being used) no need for the gray tank dump to be open. You are not going to generate 40+ gallons of water from a "mostly sealed" coach. Yes, more than a gallon the first day, then volume tapers off quickly.


Not just theory, but what we did in humid South Texas on the Gulf Coast. Never filled the gray tank.
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Old 07-20-2024, 08:16 AM   #16
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If the coach is all closed up (in storage vs being used) no need for the gray tank dump to be open. You are not going to generate 40+ gallons of water from a "mostly sealed" coach. Yes, more than a gallon the first day, then volume tapers off quickly.

Not just theory, but what we did in humid South Texas on the Gulf Coast. Never filled the gray tank.
Good point.

If someone decides to leave the roof vents open to release heat rather than run the A/C's to save on electricity charges (because most places in SW Florida charge for electricity on stays of a month or more) then there could be a need to open the gray tank. But those people probably aren't running a dehumidifier anyways.

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Old 07-21-2024, 05:23 AM   #17
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The location is south of Tampa, north of Bradenton. Thanksgiving and Christmas
I'll guess The Surf or The Tides.... regardless, I live nearby and this coming winter I am actually going to stay home for a change. If you'd like me to check
on the unit while you are gone, let me know when it gets closer to the time.
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i live in fort Lauderdale, the tropics . very high humidity.
I never ran anything ( ac, dehumidifier ) in my rig. My rooftop fan had a rain guard on it so I would leave that open year round ( but not on ) . I would crack a window open a 1/2 inch. I had that RV for 14 years. I never had a mold problem. I never had a smell problem. And when I sold it the buyer remarked how it smelled great. No musty smell at all. I've had my newer RV for 3 years and store it the same way. So far so good.
The way I look at it is that with continuous air flow and the hot sun beating on it any moisture that gets inside will steam off and as long as it can get out of the top ( heat rises ) any moisture will burn off an exit the roof in the same way a home's roof gets rid of moisture. I think sealing it up tight is the cause for all of the musty smells many RVers complain about.
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Old 07-25-2024, 03:13 PM   #19
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Keep it simple

I've had an RV in Sarasota/Bradenton. Florida since 2010 and houses for 30 years. When we're out of the coach and it's in storage, we empty the gray & black tanks and leave. In our home, we kept the A/C at 80 degrees when we're away, so it only comes on sporatically. The refridgerator stays on too.

The most I recommend for an RV with your clothes and other belonging inside is a dehumidifier. If your refridgerator will be empty, turn it off and propopen the doors. Empty your tanks, shut the water, and enjoy your trip.

It will be hot when you return, and it will take a few hours for the A/C to cool the air, walls, and furnishings. When you get back, turn the A/C and fridge on, and go out for a meal, go food shopping, or both.
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NXR... Which brand/model dehumidifier are you using? I may try your solution in my RV.
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No need to do anything at that time of year.


Have stored our rig outside with no hook-ups for 16 years in S. Florida and N. Florida.


No mold or mildew.
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Old 07-27-2024, 01:40 PM   #22
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NXR... Which brand/model dehumidifier are you using? I may try your solution in my RV.
This one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08694X9QW/

It was an Amazon Prime Day Deal a few years ago. It has a 0.4 gallon tank which is good for 10-12 hours. A dehumidifier with a larger tank would be nicer, maybe a 40-pint unit, but then the tank would be heavier when draining it manually.

FWIW, my canned thoughts on dehumidifiers:

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They work very well if sized properly. "Sized properly" means an adequate "pints" rating and a decent-sized tank. I'd prefer a tank size of closer to 1 gallon than to 1/2 gallon.

Long version:
Good dehumidifiers are rated in "pints" and use a compressor, essentially a small air conditioner in design but without the cooling.

The "pint" rating is the number of pints of water that can be removed from the air in 24 hours under optimum conditions. There are 8 pints per gallon, 128 ounces per gallon, and 3,785 milliliters (ml) per gallon.

We use a 30 pint unit in our 38' motorhome (about 300 sq. ft.) and it removes 0.4 gallons of water overnight. I know because that's the tank size and it beeps that it's full between 10 and 12 hours day or night when we set it to 50% humidity.

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BUT 30 pints is the equivalent of 3.75 GALLONS yet ours barely removes 1/3rd to 1/4 of that in 24 hours of running continuously.

Supposedly, our 30 pint compressor dehumidifier is good for 1,500 square feet but our motorhome is only about 300 square feet.

The takeaway is to buy LARGER than the advertised "square foot" rating because the manufacturers lie.

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In a shorter RV that 30-pint unit would lower the humidity faster and its tank would fill more slowly. A friend with the same 38' motorhome uses a 70 pint unit and his unit drops the humidity a lot faster than ours.

When in Florida for the winter I need to empty the 0.4 gallon tank twice a day and sometimes three times a day.

That means our 30-pint dehumidifier is removing 0.8 GALLONS of water each day from the air and sometimes more. Yes, we keep the entry door closed and the windows and vents closed.

To be honest, that 30-pint unit sometimes struggles to lower the humidity so I'll go with a 40-pint or larger unit with a larger tank next time. We keep the dehumidifier in the bedroom set to 50% humidity and it rarely shuts off. A humidity percentage meter in the main living area sits in the 50's generally and only occasionally drops into the 40's. Yes, this is with both air conditioners running almost constantly.

Some inexpensive dehumidifiers use "Peltier" technology and are rated in "ounces". A large Peltier unit is 95 ounces but 95 ounces is only 6 pints of water removed from the air in 24 hours under optimum conditions and there are 8 pints per gallon. Yet people think that "95" is a big number so that's good. But it's not.

0.4 gallons, what ours removes overnight, is equivalent to 51 ounces. Or about 3 pints.

In summary, the amount of water that can be removed from the air is what's important, not some "square foot" rating because people live in cubic feet. The advertised water removal rate is the absolute maximum and ours performs at about 50% of its advertised rating. So "go large" rather than "just enough".

As a rule, the smaller the size of the tank the lower the performance. A dehumidifier that advertises a 1,000 ml tank only holds one-quarter of one gallon.

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Thanks Ray. Some good info on dehumidifiers for me to use. I'll have to give your recommendations some thought and do some more research on the AirPlus brand. Much appreciated.
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Unless there is a lot of air movement in/out of the RV (bringing in more humidity) a 30 Pint house-type dehumidifier is perfect. I say this both looking at the specs AND from personal experience on our several DP's stored on the Gulf Coast.


The larger the unit, the more initial cost, more electricity used and the heavier it is to move around.
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Old 07-28-2024, 04:48 PM   #25
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Unless there is a lot of air movement in/out of the RV (bringing in more humidity) a 30 Pint house-type dehumidifier is perfect. I say this both looking at the specs AND from personal experience on our several DP's stored on the Gulf Coast.
Agreed, with the operative word being "stored", which this thread was about.

We find that running the dehumidifier in the bedroom at night makes for a more comfortable sleeping experience.

If I'm spending $100+ it would be nice to use the equipment all the time, which is why I mentioned a 40-pint unit.

Ours has wheels and stays in the bedroom normally.

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Ray,


No question, humidity while a coach is in storage is completely different than one that is being lived in. So, different requirements.
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Same as above

I have been using the same 30 pint dehumidifier in Tampa and it works great. I have mine set to 42.

This one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08694X9QW/
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I have been using the same 30 pint dehumidifier in Tampa and it works great. I have mine set to 42.

This one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08694X9QW/
You may have noticed that the coil behind the removable screen above the reservoir gets dirty and is hard to clean due to that white crosshatch plastic grill in front of it. I could clean the coil but not thoroughly due to that crosshatched grill.

I took a pair of diagonal wire cutters and cut it out. Once the coil dried I could vacuum it with a brush and get most of the stuff that made it through the screen out.

Pic is what it looks like today. That's far, far cleaner than when I removed the crosshatch grill. I had noticed that the dehumidifier did not seem to be working as well as it had been and the accumulated dirt on the coil was the reason.

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