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12-13-2021, 11:49 AM
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#169
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Missing oil
My vote is still operator error. Presumably OP is retired and enjoys the mystery and intrigue, ha.
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12-13-2021, 07:38 PM
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#170
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sodus Point NY-Lake Henry Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BUTCHPHI
My vote is still operator error. Presumably OP is retired and enjoys the mystery and intrigue, ha.
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Town Board Councilman, active fireman and treasurer of department. Also Board member of county water and sewer authorities. That's just the big stuff. Maintenance man of everything that breaks.
I hope you're correct Butch it means coach is 100% love the thought! That is barring theft or vandalism.
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12-13-2021, 08:22 PM
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#171
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Location: Buena Vista, Baja California Sur
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Originally Posted by Monkey Run
Town Board Councilman, active fireman and treasurer of department. Also Board member of county water and sewer authorities. That's just the big stuff. Maintenance man of everything that breaks.
I hope you're correct Butch it means coach is 100% love the thought! That is barring theft or vandalism.
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As many hats as you are wearing and irons in the fire pilot error is a possibility. You have done your due diligence looking for the missing oil. Seems like there is nothing more except to drive it and be vigilant.
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12-13-2021, 09:33 PM
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#172
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Location: North East
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The type of turbulence that is under the engine when you are traveling at highway speeds would throw the oil everywhere, it it would very likely show up as an oil mess on the back of the coach and all over the toad.
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12-14-2021, 08:43 AM
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#173
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Location: Sevierville, Tn
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monkey run...After reading this never ending "mystery", I just have to ask....What would be wrong with just draining the engine thru the drain plug, since that is what it's for. That way you know it is empty, and you can fill it back up? Just wondering... MOMCAT
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12-14-2021, 09:06 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sodus Point NY-Lake Henry Florida
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Originally Posted by momcat
monkey run...After reading this never ending "mystery", I just have to ask....What would be wrong with just draining the engine thru the drain plug, since that is what it's for. That way you know it is empty, and you can fill it back up? Just wondering... MOMCAT
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I agree with everyone regarding the leaks etc, now it's wait and see.
Momcat, the fitting I use replaces the lower drain plug and the machine sucks every bit out from that point. I switched to this system on my Cummins truck and on the motorhome due to the quantity of oil in them. It was impossible to not spill some while laying on my back playing catch as catch can with a bucket, so I moved to this system. It's actually a machine which is used for boats and other equipment on which the drain plug cannot be utilized.
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12-14-2021, 01:17 PM
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#175
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Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
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Used 7 quarts oil in less than 200 miles!
I slide a 5-gallon bucket under mine. Works like a champ. No mess.
I have to get under there to change the filter anyway.
I poke a hole in the bottom of the filter and let it drain before removing to save that mess from happening also.
I suppose that wouldn’t work if mine held 6 gallons lol
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12-14-2021, 09:15 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob_M
I slide a 5-gallon bucket under mine. Works like a champ. No mess.
I have to get under there to change the filter anyway.
I poke a hole in the bottom of the filter and let it drain before removing to save that mess from happening also.
I suppose that wouldn’t work if mine held 6 gallons lol
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I had tried that but my pan is quite low so even when raised a bit there isn't room for a bucket that large. Did purchase one of those giant oil pans, it's a bear to use. No pour spout and terrible to try and carry with 24 quarts of used oil sloshing around. My machine works great.
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12-15-2021, 07:32 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkey Run
I had tried that but my pan is quite low so even when raised a bit there isn't room for a bucket that large. Did purchase one of those giant oil pans, it's a bear to use. No pour spout and terrible to try and carry with 24 quarts of used oil sloshing around. My machine works great.
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Nothing wrong with making maintenance easier. I’ve had boats for going on 30 years. Those drain plugs are hard to or sometimes impossible to get to. My current boat the dipstick tubes have a fitting at the top and go all the way to the bottom of the oil pans and you can suck straight out the dipstick tubes from the top.
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Cummins 8.3, Banks 431hp, 1260 tq
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12-15-2021, 07:47 AM
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#178
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: America's Seaplane City.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob_M
I poke a hole in the bottom of the filter and let it drain before removing to save that mess from happening also.
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What a simply wonderful idea. I use a 2 quart oil filter on the 7.4 Vortec, this idea is quite helpful.
Thanks
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12-17-2021, 09:06 PM
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#179
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Sodus Point NY-Lake Henry Florida
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settled
Over 400 miles and the oil is exactly where it was when I filled it. This leaves me no doubt as to what occurred. As I had mentioned earlier, my very first inclination was someone had tampered with her. But not to cast stones, I worked for days attempting to find an answer related to mechanical failures, to no avail.
I am absolutely certain the oil was half way between the marks when we left for that short weekend jaunt. Yet I came up with a net deficit of 7 quarts.
Couple of good ideas posted above as well.
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12-17-2021, 09:13 PM
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#180
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: MINNESOTA
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What an odd and unexpected final answer. Stealing oil from a pan...seems so odd.
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12-17-2021, 10:42 PM
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#181
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Senior Member
Gulf Streamers Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: Memphis, TN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nbluesky
What an odd and unexpected final answer. Stealing oil from a pan...seems so odd.
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I have sometimes wondered about my fuel tank level in my RV sitting in the driveway; 5+ yrs back, I found filler hose mounting screws suddenly missing in my pickup in driveway, very serious doubts of "vibrated loose"?... and... they did steal my CATALYTIC FROM RV IN DRIVEWAY THIS YEAR.
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12-18-2021, 12:51 PM
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#182
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: MINNESOTA
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I think it would not be a bad idea to start cutting thieves hands off. It might slow down the stealing. It is getting REALLY bad in MN. carjackings and cat thieves are thick!
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