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12-25-2007, 05:31 PM
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The main reason I liked and bought the Tire-Safe Guard Tire Pressure Monitor system as opposed to one of the other systems was I really liked the flow thru air flow feature. When I received my system from Trikor, I did find that the front monitors, although smaller than the rear monitors would not fit in the small triangle shaped openings in my Alcoa alloy wheels.
I contacted Tim at Trikor who sent out the replacement "button style" monitors for the front wheels. However, before they arrived I experimented and came up with what I believe will be an acceptable alternative.
My Alcoa's have a fairly long air valve that extends from the middle part of the wheel and extends to the outer face of the front Alcoa rim. The tire valve stem has a nut on it that tightens it down to the wheel itself. What I was able to do was to loosen the nut that snugs down the valve stem and and twist it slightly towards the next triangle shaped opening in the face of the Alcoa. The flow thru monitors measure about an inch and a half from end to end. I screwed the monitor on the valve stem, and snugged it down from the rear side of the wheel.
(A short cut I used to simplify the screwing the monitors on to the the angled valve stem was to use a piece plastic 1/4 inch tubing about 10" long that I had left from some unknown project. I pushed the tubing onto one end of the fill valve on the monitor and used it as an extension to thread the monitor onto the tire valve. Then I just snugged it down with a wrench.)
What I found was that the fill valve on the monitor is now easily assessable from the triangle opening next to the opening that the valve originally protruded thru. I can fill or drain as necessary with my angle foot air chuck. As a slight bonus, the monitors are not as visable on the outside of the front wheels, and as such do not attract any attention.
I was able to keep the flow thru sensor, the main reason I went with this particular system. I have checked pressure a few times with the unit and the tires are all holding air nicely.
I had the interior sensors mounted in the Jeep tow vehicle, and the digital readout is picking up the signal from the toad tires easily. My first trip with them is this Friday and I am anxious to see how it works out.
If you are thinking about the Tire-Safe Guard Tire Pressure Monitor system, this may also work for you. If anyone is interested I can take a few pics for clarification.
SargePics Added!
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12-25-2007, 05:31 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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The main reason I liked and bought the Tire-Safe Guard Tire Pressure Monitor system as opposed to one of the other systems was I really liked the flow thru air flow feature. When I received my system from Trikor, I did find that the front monitors, although smaller than the rear monitors would not fit in the small triangle shaped openings in my Alcoa alloy wheels.
I contacted Tim at Trikor who sent out the replacement "button style" monitors for the front wheels. However, before they arrived I experimented and came up with what I believe will be an acceptable alternative.
My Alcoa's have a fairly long air valve that extends from the middle part of the wheel and extends to the outer face of the front Alcoa rim. The tire valve stem has a nut on it that tightens it down to the wheel itself. What I was able to do was to loosen the nut that snugs down the valve stem and and twist it slightly towards the next triangle shaped opening in the face of the Alcoa. The flow thru monitors measure about an inch and a half from end to end. I screwed the monitor on the valve stem, and snugged it down from the rear side of the wheel.
(A short cut I used to simplify the screwing the monitors on to the the angled valve stem was to use a piece plastic 1/4 inch tubing about 10" long that I had left from some unknown project. I pushed the tubing onto one end of the fill valve on the monitor and used it as an extension to thread the monitor onto the tire valve. Then I just snugged it down with a wrench.)
What I found was that the fill valve on the monitor is now easily assessable from the triangle opening next to the opening that the valve originally protruded thru. I can fill or drain as necessary with my angle foot air chuck. As a slight bonus, the monitors are not as visable on the outside of the front wheels, and as such do not attract any attention.
I was able to keep the flow thru sensor, the main reason I went with this particular system. I have checked pressure a few times with the unit and the tires are all holding air nicely.
I had the interior sensors mounted in the Jeep tow vehicle, and the digital readout is picking up the signal from the toad tires easily. My first trip with them is this Friday and I am anxious to see how it works out.
If you are thinking about the Tire-Safe Guard Tire Pressure Monitor system, this may also work for you. If anyone is interested I can take a few pics for clarification.
SargePics Added!
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12-26-2007, 07:53 AM
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Sarge, on the Jeep you mentioned internal sensors. Did you use the internal valve stem sensors or the internal rim mounted sensors, Ken, '04 DSDP...
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12-26-2007, 10:50 AM
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They are the internal valve sensors Ken. You replace the standard tire valve with the sending units. The sending unit is a small square unit at the base of the valve inside the tire. This worked best for me as I use the Jeep to off road. Less chance of me knocking one off in the middle of nowhere.
Sarge
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12-26-2007, 11:45 AM
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Sarge,
You finally got this system and reported on it. Thanks! Could you post or send some pics for what you described?
What was the difference on the "button" style sensors you got as replacements. I've seen a similiar TPMS by Mobile Awareness. Also heard that Trikor was coming out with a new style receiver (all-in-one).
Any more info you feel like sharing would be welcomed.
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12-26-2007, 02:34 PM
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The button style senders are similar to the Pressure Pro senders. They are a "cap" that screws onto the tire valve stem that does not have the flow thru feature. You would have to remove them to add air to the tire. They are however much smaller than the flow thru senders. They are about as big around as the size of a dime. It is an alternative to the flow thru senders if the flow thru ones are too big to fit on your wheel.
I took a few pics of the way that my flow thru senders are installed. As soon as they are approved by admin I will add them.
Sarge
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12-26-2007, 03:52 PM
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Thanks to our speedy moderators the photo's are in my gallery.
The first photo was taken thru the opening in the wheel that the tire air valve used to stick out thru. By loosening the nut on the valve stem I was able to easily turn the valve to point a different dirrection. You can just see the flow through sender at the tip of the valve stem.
This photo was taken thru the opening in the wheel right next to the one that the stem used to point through.
The tip of the flow through sender is about an inch inside the opening in the wheel. I adjusted the angle of the stem to facilitate the easy reach of the air chuck or tire gauge.
I asked Tim at Trikor if the sender being inside the face of the wheel would effect the performance of the sender. No performance issues are a factor. In fact, the sender now probably has a direct line of sight to the under chassis antenna pickup that runs up to the receiver.
I'll see how it works this weekend!
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12-27-2007, 06:13 AM
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Sarge,
Good write up and thanks for the pictures. My Tire-Safegard arrived and Tim replaced the larger round sensors for the smaller flow-thru sensors. They fit but I also have the Accuride wheels with oval holes and the valve stem sticks out about 3/8". I actually like the way yours fit and they are pretty well hidden and less likely to be stolen. Pretty nead workaround.
mark
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