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Old 11-18-2020, 04:33 PM   #1
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Yet Another Sanicon hose blowout - Any sources for a new substitute hose

Well, it happened to me, while emptying by black holding tank using the Sanicon Macerator system - the discharge hose had a blowout and showered me with black water, needless to say I was and covered with poop and furious.

I decided to find a new hose and discovered most, if not all, suppliers of the Sanicon hose were "out of stock". I called Thetford and they advised that due to the factory shut down due to Covid, stocks of replacement hoses were slim to none and that condition would continue for a few weeks or more.

I decided to see if I could find a suitable substitute that would fit in my New Air wet bay which has very limited storage space. The original 20' hose fit well with room to spare; however, the 30' pool hose I purchased didn't fit nor did the 24' sump pump hose. At a minimum I wanted to connect a 20' +/-replacement hose using camlocks or other quick connect system. I have seen many ideas on IRV2 blogs on how to do this.

I have looked at hundreds 1.5" flexible hose solutions and can't seem to find anything that would be a good substitute. I looked at vacuum suction hoses, canvas 1.5" fire hoses; wet/dry vacuum hoses (which seem to be the most promising substitute), looked at flat discharge hoses and others that I can't remember which category they fit in.

I have spoken to hose sales representatives who offer no solutions, stopped at my local Home Depot, Lowes, and the closest vacuum store -- all to no avail.

So has anyone found a flexible, retractable 20' hose that is durable, abrasion resistant, flexible enough to fit it a tight space yet strong enough to expand as necessary without showering the operator with a "poop shower".

I love, love, love the macerator system, but am frustrated with the poor quality hoses provided by Thetford. The company is making a lot of money on hoses that fail way before their time. I guess like tires they age out, in this case at about 1 - 2 years, at least that is my observation. I guess I'll be using my 3" slinky hose until I get this figured out.

I look forward to suggestions.

Mike
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Well, it happened to me, while emptying by black holding tank using the Sanicon Macerator system - the discharge hose had a blowout and showered me with black water, needless to say I was and covered with poop and furious.

I decided to find a new hose and discovered most, if not all, suppliers of the Sanicon hose were "out of stock". I called Thetford and they advised that due to the factory shut down due to Covid, stocks of replacement hoses were slim to none and that condition would continue for a few weeks or more.

I decided to see if I could find a suitable substitute that would fit in my New Air wet bay which has very limited storage space. The original 20' hose fit well with room to spare; however, the 30' pool hose I purchased didn't fit nor did the 24' sump pump hose. At a minimum I wanted to connect a 20' +/-replacement hose using camlocks or other quick connect system. I have seen many ideas on IRV2 blogs on how to do this.

I have looked at hundreds 1.5" flexible hose solutions and can't seem to find anything that would be a good substitute. I looked at vacuum suction hoses, canvas 1.5" fire hoses; wet/dry vacuum hoses (which seem to be the most promising substitute), looked at flat discharge hoses and others that I can't remember which category they fit in.

I have spoken to hose sales representatives who offer no solutions, stopped at my local Home Depot, Lowes, and the closest vacuum store -- all to no avail.

So has anyone found a flexible, retractable 20' hose that is durable, abrasion resistant, flexible enough to fit it a tight space yet strong enough to expand as necessary without showering the operator with a "poop shower".

I love, love, love the macerator system, but am frustrated with the poor quality hoses provided by Thetford. The company is making a lot of money on hoses that fail way before their time. I guess like tires they age out, in this case at about 1 - 2 years, at least that is my observation. I guess I'll be using my 3" slinky hose until I get this figured out.

I look forward to suggestions.

Mike
I'm putting together a roll flat hose as soon as I get 1 it 2 more fittings. The 1"X 25' hose is $25 from Harbor Freight.

Its a bit smaller in diameter but will not blow out like the stretchy SaniCon hose.

I used them with my old FloJet macerator and they worked OK.
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I have bought extra Sanicon hoses on Amazon in addition to Cam fittings. Amazon has them listed as available now. Here is a link showing 5 available presently.



https://www.amazon.com/Thetford-9752...s%2C595&sr=8-3
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I guess like tires they age out, in this case at about 1 - 2 years, at least that is my observation.
Mine is 2007 vintage, and still going strong !

Before the 'Turbo' model though.
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My original SaniCon system in my 2005 Diplomat came with the smaller diameter hose that lasted 10 years. When I ordered the 2019 Newmar DS with the new turbo SaniCon, people were having all kinds of issues with the hose. The cure was to add a nylon sheath from Amazon over the hose. It's still just as flexible, but the hose never touches the ground, just the sheath. Two years later, still no issue.
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Old 11-20-2020, 04:56 PM   #6
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I have bought extra Sanicon hoses on Amazon in addition to Cam fittings. Amazon has them listed as available now. Here is a link showing 5 available presently.



https://www.amazon.com/Thetford-9752...s%2C595&sr=8-3
Ken,

Thanks for the information, I had checked Amazon last week and there were no Sanicon hoses listed. But I must confess that I didn't check a second time prior to my post for help.

I ordered two of the five hoses listed on Amazon, PET covers for each of the two hoses, heat shrink tubes and camlock fittings for both hoses in the event I needed a second hose for an "out of reach" sewer connection.

Hopefully these additions will take care of my Sanicon issues and the hoses will last a long time as has been the case with others.

I appreciate your help as well as all who responded to my plea for help.

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Mike......If you're familiar with "rescue tape", a tape that adheres to itself and sold at RV stores and on line, it makes for a great tape to seal the end connections and won't come off.

https://www.amazon.com/Rescue-Tape-C...38295918&psc=1
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My SaniCon system is in storage in a building where I keep the MH. That way it can't cause any problems.
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Mike......If you're familiar with "rescue tape", a tape that adheres to itself and sold at RV stores and on line, it makes for a great tape to seal the end connections and won't come off.

https://www.amazon.com/Rescue-Tape-C...38295918&psc=1
Thanks for information, looks like a good tape to have in your tool kit and a good way to, as you suggested, attaching the PET covering to the Sanicon hoses.

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Hi Mike,

You're welcome. I have several extras since I have to reach about 50 - 60 feet when we park on our pad at our daughter's house. All have the protective sleeve as well as Cam Lock fittings. I carry one extra when traveling in case of a failure and the occasional park that has the sewer connection behind the coach so I don't have to stretch the primary hose. Our original Sanicon hose is still fine after 2 1/2 years of use, but it has had the sleeve since nearly new.
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