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Old 01-26-2021, 01:42 PM   #1
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Adding winch to Wrangler that's setup for towing

Hi,

I have my Wrangler setup for towing using a Ready Brute Elite (default setup). I would like to change out the bumper for one with a winch plate. I was recommended to get a Red Rock Attack Stubby and Open Toad 13000lbs winch. I still have 300lbs payload left before I hit 5000lbs.

I called the installer of the Ready Brute and he reckons no tow parts should he attached to the bumper but to remove the bumper slowly in case a brake cable is attached.

Is this doable? I only do mild off roading but my 30 year Jeep veteran buddy said its good insurance.

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Old 01-26-2021, 01:56 PM   #2
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Old 01-26-2021, 05:57 PM   #3
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That looks like a Blue Ox base plate - if so it's most likely bolted to the frame rails. The Ready Brute cable looks like it's attached to the base plate, and the Ready Stop cable looks like it's attached to the skid plate so you SHOULD be okay.
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Old 01-26-2021, 07:18 PM   #4
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Thanks Alan,

I appreciate the help. It is indeed a Blue OX tow bar.

I am going to remove the stock bumper and make sure there is gear attached and will then order the bumper and winch.

My buddy was saying I should remove the winch for towing.
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Does it sound like I am a candidate for a winch? My Jeep is a stock Sahara with off road tires and no lift.
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Old 01-26-2021, 10:25 PM   #6
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why change bumpers?

I am in the same situation as you and use the same tow set up and baseplate. I am looking at installing a winch. I looked at bumpers and then realized that I prefer the stock bumper. They make a winch plate that you can add and it uses the same mounting holes that are behind the bumper. Pretty easy to add, then the winch mounts to it. That is what I am going to do.
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When I got my Jeep I got a RoadMaster bracket set. Now I have an aftermarket bumper and a 12K winch. Use the brackets welded the bumper. Did have to buy adapters for my RoadMaster Nighthawk towbar. Be sure to check with the manufacturer of the bumper to be sure it's rated for towing as not all are.
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Iíve got a 2001 TJ. Stock front bumper.

Winches are handy. Hopefully you will never need it, but when you do, youíll appreciate having it.

You can buy a winch mount plate, also. Bolts on top of the frame, in front of the grill. They are inexpensive and readily available. No need to change the bumper.

As far as towing, no need to remove the winch. Iíve towed my jeep several thousands of miles with winch in place.

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Kinda going through the same thing but I have the Curry Ent tow plate but wanting to add a winch and preferably a different bumper but having the Curry tow plate screws that up as it bolts to the factory bumper. Looking at your pics, it looks like you could easily change bumpers but you would be limited to one with no lower skid plate which most of them do. Like Cougarkid said, there are many kits to just add a winch to a stock Jeep bumper. As far as your friend saying to remove the winch, I would like to know his reasoning as there are no issues at all having a winch on while towing...thousands of people doing it. For myself, in the end I couldnít find a bumper to work with my tow plate and I wanted a recessed winch, so I just built my own bumper around the Curry plate....just waiting to pick up at powder coating. If you have a newer Wrangler, the bumper comes of real easy with only 8 nuts.
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Why the recommendation to remove the winch fir towing? Many of us tow with a winch on the bumper.

If anything is attached to the existing bumper, just remove it and relocate to the new bumper. Not a big deal. Suggest to move anything currently below the bumper to on top - less chance of it being damaged when offroading.

Note that typically it's easier to bolt the winch onto the bumper before installing the bumper to the jeep.
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Why the recommendation to remove the winch fir towing? Many of us tow with a winch on the bumper.

If anything is attached to the existing bumper, just remove it and relocate to the new bumper. Not a big deal. Suggest to move anything currently below the bumper to on top - less chance of it being damaged when offroading.

Note that typically it's easier to bolt the winch onto the bumper before installing the bumper to the jeep.
Hi Vince,

I think he mentioned it to keep the tow weight down, I told him I am happy to leave it on and will get a cover.
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Thanks all,

I am more than happy to keep the existing bumper. I will go look in to the mounting kit. From my research the mounting kits are not much cheaper than the stubby bumpers.

Next thing will be to pass DW saying "why do you need a winch"? :-)
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Next thing will be to pass DW saying "why do you need a winch"? :-)
Yup..... There's always THAT
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I tow a Jeep rubicon and to install a winch we replaced bumper with one that also had tow bar attachment spots on it. We do a lot of off road driving but nothing to extreme. In four years we have never needed winch still no regrets in having it for piece of mind. Safe travels


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