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Old 09-15-2021, 04:33 AM   #1
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Advantages of toad with diesel engine?

Wife and I are gearing up to purchase our first RV and go full time in about 8-10 months. Our first choice for an RV is a 2022 diesel super C. I'm also considering buying a 2021/22 F150 4X4 with a camper shell for the toad. Our plans include a lot of boondocking in National Forest and BLM land with many excursions in the F150

I see the F150's can be ordered with several engine packages including a diesel engine.

I'm thinking about the ease of fueling up both diesel powered vehicles when traveling.

Are there other advantages of have a toad with a diesel engine?
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One I can think of is if one runs out of fuel you have some in the other.
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I have been driving diesel pickups for over 25 years and if I did not need the towing power they provide I would not own one. Besides the additional maintenance expense fueling them poses problems. Most every diesel pump is surrounded by a puddle of spilled diesel, not only dirties your carpet it leaves a”pleasant” odor. There is nothing like having nice clothes on and getting a bath of diesel fuel when a kick back from the filler nozzle, a very common occurrence. Oh, since you will already know how to deal with DEF problems with your motor home you’ll know just what to do (and how much to spend) when you have them on your truck as well.
Don’t get me wrong, Diesel trucks are great for moving heavy loads, but that’s where it ends.
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I too have a diesel pickup truck and tend to agree with the previous poster
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Being able to fuel both at the pumps at the same time is the ONLY advantage I can see.

Question? How much fuel does your Toad burn while you are towing it? The only time you should really need to put fuel in, is when you are using it.

Now your talking about towing a pickup with a camper on it. I would be more concerned that you have the right truck for the camper than what fuel it burns. Being able to fuel both your coach and your truck at the same time should be the least of your reasons to decide on which type of fuel you want in your pickup.

I'd concentrate more on the advantages or disadvantages of each.
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I have a 45' DP and a '21 Jeep Wrangler with the 3.0L Ecodiesel. The Jeep has lots of power and gets good fuel mileage for a Jeep. 22 in town and almost 30 on the highway. As to fueling up I use the truck pumps for the MH and the flow is way too much for the 18 gallon tank in the Jeep.
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Y'all talked me out of a diesel F150. I will order my 2022 gas F150 in a few days.
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Y'all talked me out of a diesel F150. I will order my 2022 gas F150 in a few days.
You're gonna forgo the option of a diesel in a new truck, simply because a few folks had THEIR own issues with diesel situations? This is up to you but, I'd take a look at all the BENEFITS of owning one before discarding the option. I've had multiple diesel vehicles and had no issues like that what so ever.

Yes, every once in a while a diesel pump handle can get dirty and oily but, I've also picked up dirty and oil GAS PUMP HANDLES too. Not all diesel fueling station are as has been described. Many, if not most are just as clean as the gas pumps and surrounding areas next to them. I have fueled our diesel coach all over the U.S. and if I had to guess, I'd bet I can count on one hand, how many fuel nozzles were dirty/oily.

What is the supposed specs, i.e. fuel mileage, towing capability, HP and torque, etc. of that new Ford diesel compared to the gas engine it comes with? And *DEF*, what's the big deal about that? DEF's been around for quite a while and, just like ANY smog system on ANY vehicle, it's had its problems. If I had to guess, I'd guess that way less than 1 % of DEF required vehicles across the nation are having issues.

I've owned two later model VW diesel bugs that both got me over 42 mpg consistently and, yeah, every once in a GREAT WHILE, I'd fuel up with a dirty nozzle. Wow, big deal. Wipe my hands off with a rag or paper towel and go on about life. You asked about any issues with using a diesel pickup as a toad. NONE. It's a truck, period. If it's 4WD and, has a defined NEUTRAL in its transfer case, AND, is authorized by FORD (and all instructions are in the owners manual) to be flat towed behind a motorhome, then you're good to go. Your choice partner.
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I own a 2020 Ram 1500 diesel and if I order another it will also have the diesel.
Gets twice the mileage of a gas, and lots of torque if you need to tow something. If you’re not filling at the truck pumps the auto pumps are just as clean for diesel as they are for gas.
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I have been driving diesel pickups for over 25 years and if I did not need the towing power they provide I would not own one. Besides the additional maintenance expense fueling them poses problems. Most every diesel pump is surrounded by a puddle of spilled diesel, not only dirties your carpet it leaves a”pleasant” odor. There is nothing like having nice clothes on and getting a bath of diesel fuel when a kick back from the filler nozzle, a very common occurrence. Oh, since you will already know how to deal with DEF problems with your motor home you’ll know just what to do (and how much to spend) when you have them on your truck as well.
Don’t get me wrong, Diesel trucks are great for moving heavy loads, but that’s where it ends.

Sorry but I disagree wit this post almost entirely. The smell yes I agree.
Before you run out and get a diesel F150, verify that it can be flat towed. I don't know and have not looked.
Me personally, having a diesel Toad would be the way to go behind a DP MH. The only problem you might face is fueling up the Toad at truck stops. Most of them use High flow large mouth nozzles. They may not fit into the neck of the Toad. This is where those that don't know also get the back splash of diesel. Those pumps are designed for large trucks with tanks, that is why they are High flow and larger.
The other advantage to a diesel Toad is you don't have to carry 2 types of fuel cans with you so no mix-ups.
But hey this is just my opinion and yo will have to form your own.
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I have been driving diesel pickups for over 25 years and if I did not need the towing power they provide I would not own one. Besides the additional maintenance expense fueling them poses problems. Most every diesel pump is surrounded by a puddle of spilled diesel, not only dirties your carpet it leaves a”pleasant” odor. There is nothing like having nice clothes on and getting a bath of diesel fuel when a kick back from the filler nozzle, a very common occurrence. Oh, since you will already know how to deal with DEF problems with your motor home you’ll know just what to do (and how much to spend) when you have them on your truck as well.
Don’t get me wrong, Diesel trucks are great for moving heavy loads, but that’s where it ends.
I agree.... I've had diesel pickups for over 25 years too. They are great for towing. But, for a toad, you really aren't going to need that pulling power and you will be paying a high premium for the diesel engine option. Then, you will be paying a premium for diesel fuel vs gas. Resale value will be higher and longevity will probably be better on the diesel, but current generation gas engines are going to be good for a couple hundred thousand miles at least, so I can't say that's a tangible benefit anymore.
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I agree.... I've had diesel pickups for over 25 years too. They are great for towing. But, for a toad, you really aren't going to need that pulling power and you will be paying a high premium for the diesel engine option. Then, you will be paying a premium for diesel fuel vs gas. Resale value will be higher and longevity will probably be better on the diesel, but current generation gas engines are going to be good for a couple hundred thousand miles at least, so I can't say that's a tangible benefit anymore.
Your choice.
There is no premium paid for diesel fuel vs gas once you factor in the greater mpg of a diesel engine. My wife loves her diesel engine BMW because it has gobs of power and goes 700 miles between fill-ups. A shame that it is not towable or we would tow it.
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The other advantage to a diesel Toad is you don't have to carry 2 types of fuel cans with you so no mix-ups. :
I'm new at this and was wondering if yall carry spare fuel? Our primary camping locations will be boondocking.

It crossed my mind to carry a couple of 5-6 gal. fuel containers and with a diesel toad I could use the spare fuel in both the motor home and toad vehicle if necessary.
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