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04-17-2018, 11:56 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Are right turns even harder towing a vehicle behind a motorhome?
Recently purchased my first motorhome, a 41 foot Class A Newmar Ventana Le DP, and I will soon purchase my tow bar and brake system in order to tow my Jeep Wrangler. I'm still getting used to making right turns in my motorhome and I was wondering if adding the toad will make these turns even more difficult? Any ideas or suggestions?
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04-17-2018, 12:01 PM
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Holiday Rambler Owners Club
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Little bit. Sharp turn, your toad rear tires will run a little wider turn than the rear tires on your coach.
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04-17-2018, 12:02 PM
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Location: western NC mountains!
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I don't notice any difference, if you coach makes the turn, your toad will too
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04-17-2018, 12:04 PM
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You do have to pay attention to the longer wheelbase in making right turns, with a toad on the back the toad will track pretty true to the back axle of the RV, so if you hit a curb with the RV, the toad might do so also. Try going into a large parking lot and place a cone or two and practice making slow right turns. Pay attention to how far past the 'corner' you have to go to keep rear RV tire from hitting the cone and how the toad tracks. After a bit of trial and error you'll be fine.
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04-17-2018, 04:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterT
I don't notice any difference, if you coach makes the turn, your toad will too
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That's been my (admittedly limited) experience as well. Recently, had to make a VERY sharp right turn (radius limited by uprights on left, at the pavement edge), and nasty dropoffs and potholes on the right side. The Wrangler tracked right through the turn, no problem. White-knuckle moment, followed by a big sigh of relief.
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04-17-2018, 04:35 PM
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In general, not much, but you need to check it out with your coach and toad. It depends on the coach tail swing and the size of your toad. Our previous combo the toad inside rear tire would track about 16" inside the coach rear tires on a sharp turn.
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04-17-2018, 04:49 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
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Your coach has a fairly long overhang. When you make a right or left turn, the rear swings out, taking the toad with it. Once your rear wheels pass the arc of the curve, your toad will follow without issue.
I do find towing my pontoon boat, with the axles set way to the rear of the trailer, I have to watch how it tracks as it will cut the turn a little shorter than the coach.
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04-17-2018, 10:51 PM
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We had exact same setup towing Wrangler with our 4037 Ventana.
Jeep tracked really well - seldom had any issue with Wrangler cutting too tight on turns. Once I a while might run over a curb, but Wrangler can handle a few bumps with ease.
Take it slow until you get a feel for things. Don't let other traffic push you. Make em wait while you get your turn done.
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04-19-2018, 07:34 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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I can't even see our toad in the mirrors. It tracks behind it like it's not even there. Never had a problem. If I can make the turn, the car just follows.
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04-22-2018, 02:35 PM
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Location: 2007 jeep wrangler toad. lifted and locked.US Army Vet 1972-1975 2nd Armored Division
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My 36ft journey has no problem either pulling my 07 wrangler. If I had one piece of advice it's don't get in a position where you have to back up or you will be unhook ing it to keep from tearing stuff up.
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04-22-2018, 03:07 PM
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Vintage RV Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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What BFlinn181 said
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Originally Posted by BFlinn181
You do have to pay attention to the longer wheelbase in making right turns, with a toad on the back the toad will track pretty true to the back axle of the RV, so if you hit a curb with the RV, the toad might do so also. Try going into a large parking lot and place a cone or two and practice making slow right turns. Pay attention to how far past the 'corner' you have to go to keep rear RV tire from hitting the cone and how the toad tracks. After a bit of trial and error you'll be fine.
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I'm with him; practice...practice.
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04-23-2018, 08:06 AM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Well I "Delay" the turn a bit due to the 38' Length of my gasser. Would likely "Delay" a bit more with a DP due to the towed.
With my Gasser save for "Lock" type steering Maximum angle turn, the towed will trak Within the RV.. but you never do that kind of turn outside of parking/departing a parking spot or cite
Wath your mirrors and if you can have a "Spotter" observe a few turns. Vacant Shapping mall parking lots are good test/pratice cites.
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