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Old 09-24-2021, 11:27 AM   #1
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Smile Backing a toad while hitched

OK it's time to put this thing to rest. Can you back up a towed vehicle while it's connected to the motorhome????

The answer is YES. I do it all the time with no issues. HOW? simply lock the steering wheel in the straight position, or, use a bungy cord to keep the wheel from turning.

Now you have a single hinge not a double hinge. Back'er in anywhere you want now.

Don't forget to remove the bungy/unlock the steering when you take off.

Try it.....it's easy and works great.
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I don’t think people realize exactly what the issue is when doing this. You won’t cause any damage to the toad or drivetrain. In fact, the warnings pertain to the tow bar. Usually made from aluminum an inexperienced driver can bend them or snap them when trying to back up.
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https://www.blueox.com/can-you-back-up-with-a-tow-bar/

Blue Ox says “No”
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Bobthegod please list your make/ model of your TOAD and the tow bar you use. So others will know they can use your advise.
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OK it's time to put this thing to rest. Can you back up a towed vehicle while it's connected to the motorhome????

The answer is YES. I do it all the time with no issues. HOW? simply lock the steering wheel in the straight position, or, use a bungy cord to keep the wheel from turning.

Now you have a single hinge not a double hinge. Back'er in anywhere you want now.

Don't forget to remove the bungy/unlock the steering when you take off.

Try it.....it's easy and works great.
Just because you can, doesnít mean you should.

I donít believe youíll find any tow bar manufacturer that endorses or supports backing up.
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'Locking' the steering wheel helps keep toad front tires 'straight' when backing
Issue is front tires can still flip to one side or other IF backing is not done 'straight back'

WARNINGS are posted by the Tow BAR MFGs cause they are NOT going to repair/replace when damage ocurrs from backing up


Tow Truck drivers have been 'locking' steering wheels with straps/belts/rope etc for decades when having to tow a vehicle from the rear
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I would like to see a video of someone actually doing this.
Backing straight up? Maybe. Backing and turning? I'm not so sure. That would put a tremendous amount of strain on the steering linkage of the towed vehicle.
Everything I have learned about the use of a tow bar tells me they aren't made to back up with.
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'Locking' the steering wheel helps keep toad front tires 'straight' when backing
Issue is front tires can still flip to one side or other IF backing is not done 'straight back'

WARNINGS are posted by the Tow BAR MFGs cause they are NOT going to repair/replace when damage ocurrs from backing up


Tow Truck drivers have been 'locking' steering wheels with straps/belts/rope etc for decades when having to tow a vehicle from the rear
Yes but with the rear raised you have only one pivot point. By law (at least in my state) you can't tow a vehicle using only the lock provided by turning the ignition to off and relying on the steering wheel lock. We use special devices made for the job.
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Just because you can, doesnít mean you should.

I donít believe youíll find any tow bar manufacturer that endorses or supports backing up.
Not true!

Right in the owners manual that came with my Demco Excallibar, it states the bar is rated for 'limited' backing !
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Bobthegod please post make and model of toad and tow bar and credit card number for those that try and fail.

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OK it's time to put this thing to rest. Can you back up a towed vehicle while it's connected to the motorhome????

The answer is YES. I do it all the time with no issues. HOW? simply lock the steering wheel in the straight position, or, use a bungy cord to keep the wheel from turning.

Now you have a single hinge not a double hinge. Back'er in anywhere you want now.

Don't forget to remove the bungy/unlock the steering when you take off.

Try it.....it's easy and works great.
Can you? Yes. If you have the tow vehicle and the toad in a complete straight line, have the wheels locked so they canít turn and you back completely straight backwards.

YOU CANNOT HOWEVER BACK AROUND A CORNER. You may be able to adjust just a little bit, but if your toad starts to angle off jus a little bit you cannot jus crank your wheels and correct (unless you toad axels are less than 1í apart). You cannot back it up like you do a trailer.

For years we backed farm wagons into the shed by dropping a pin in the tongue so the front wheels couldnít turn. But to make even the slightest adjustment you were basically skidding the front wheels to get it to move.

You are giving very bad advice as you make it sound so simple. Some guy will read this, lock his wheels and back his toad into the side o his coach and if he avoids that, he will twist his tow bar so bad it will break and kill someone.

The moderator should remove this post. It is not just bad advice, itís dangerous.
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https://youtu.be/lMiu37jAzB8?t=971
i posted this in the toad forum
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I would like to see a video of someone actually doing this.
Backing straight up? Maybe. Backing and turning? I'm not so sure. That would put a tremendous amount of strain on the steering linkage of the towed vehicle.
Everything I have learned about the use of a tow bar tells me they aren't made to back up with.
here you go
https://youtu.be/lMiu37jAzB8?t=971
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https://youtu.be/lMiu37jAzB8?t=971
i posted this in the toad forum
Notice how on a 1800# smart car the front tiered Wes sliding allís not how much pressure was on the side walls. The tire tread was just about rolled under.

I also connect 120 & 240 v wires live. Iíve been trained how to do it. But you should not.
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