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Old 07-27-2018, 06:46 AM   #29
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We have used the Air Force 1 system for more than 6 years. Was installed at a FMCA rally in Gillette Wy and has worked flawlessly in our Subaru Outback.
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Old 07-27-2018, 07:08 AM   #30
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Setting up a toad to pull behind my 36 foot pusher with air brakes. Any suggestions on best brake systems for toad. Air Force One?? Other?
Thanks for all the info. The M&G unit wont fit in my Jeep so it looks like I'll go with the AF-1
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Old 07-27-2018, 08:57 AM   #31
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I have installed and used both the AF1 and the M&G. They are both great systems. You will not go wrong with either one. The key differences between the 2 is what they offer with the system.
AF1 is a complete system. Includes coach breakaway, toad breakaway.
M&G does not offer the coach breakaway, toad breakaway is optional.
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Thanks for all the info. The M&G unit wont fit in my Jeep so it looks like I'll go with the AF-1
Just wondering,
What year/model is the Jeep you're speaking of?
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I have installed and used both the AF1 and the M&G. They are both great systems. You will not go wrong with either one. The key differences between the 2 is what they offer with the system.
AF1 is a complete system. Includes coach breakaway, toad breakaway.
M&G does not offer the coach breakaway, toad breakaway is optional.

M&G with the breakaway is under $800 and if you want to use a rebuilt unit its under $600. M&G is so simple in design just a cylinder piston with a O ring and i cant see that it will ever wear out, the breakaway system is under $200 and will work with the Roadmaster Brakemaster and theirs is close to $300. This is probaly one of the best and cheapest simplest toad brake for coach with Air brakes and one of the simplest to install.
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M&G with the breakaway is under $800 and if you want to use a rebuilt unit its under $600. M&G is so simple in design just a cylinder piston with a O ring and i cant see that it will ever wear out, the breakaway system is under $200 and will work with the Roadmaster Brakemaster and theirs is close to $300. This is probaly one of the best and cheapest simplest toad brake for coach with Air brakes and one of the simplest to install.


Yes, M&G has the toad side break away. This is different than the coach side break away that the AF1 includes.
This system is now coming on some Newmar coaches with Spartan Chassis called Safe Haul.
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At one time you could buy this system from Spartan but I have not seen it for a couple years.
Looks like etrailer now has it.
https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories...I/SM99627.html
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Our AF1 has worked and been trouble free.
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I've been using the M&G air brake system for 11 years. It was an easy install and has worked flawlessly. I can hook up my brake system in 5 seconds and be on my way without the hassle of setting up some box on the floor of my toad. I'm sure there are other systems out there that are equally as good, just reflecting my experience.
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I made my own from a 1.5” air cylinder, 12” of 1/2” conduit, a bungy strap, and some small nylon rope...$25. The airline and fitting cost almost as much.

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We use the AF-1 but I think the M&G is equally effective where it will fit.
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KPC, you should make sure that your toad is capable of having the AirForce one system put in before buying it. I had just assumed that there would be no issue, so, since I wanted a small toad I purchased a Veloster. When I took it to the AirForce one dealer, they said that there was not enough room for the ram on the brake pedal. They also carried the RVi 3 brake system, which I went with and it does fine and even has built in tire pressure. But, I would have liked the AirForce system so I could hook up even faster.
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I am using the new Patriot II by Blue Ox. Very lightweight and totally electric. Works great.
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We couldn't use the standard M&G system as it wouldn't fit on my Jeep Grand Cherokee. As Lt Dan mentioned, M&G is selling a new system which is pretty much like the Air Force 1. I chose the Air Force 1 for two reasons, 1) it's been out far longer with a lot more experience and use, and 2) it's much more interchangeable/usable on most vehicles. Both are great systems.
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I made my own from a 1.5” air cylinder, 12” of 1/2” conduit, a bungy strap, and some small nylon rope...$25. The airline and fitting cost almost as much.



Could you give more info on your build and install?
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