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08-02-2018, 08:36 PM
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#43
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Junior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 26
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All are good and each to his own, I have the new Rvi3, very easy to install and remove after the trip. I started with the M&G but returned it as it was a pain to try installing it in our 2008 Jeep Liberty.
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2005 Newmar Mountain Aire 4301
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08-02-2018, 10:00 PM
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#44
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10
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The Brakes Work On My Side!
That’s a ha-ha for all of us who are the navigators for our pilot drivers. We first had this really involved system to place on the driver’s floor and hope you did it right each time. We used it for one trip and quickly purchased and installed the Air Force One. Now we just put the plug in and works awesome!
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08-03-2018, 05:21 AM
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#45
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Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: United States of America
Posts: 66
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We went with an Air Force One system about 18 months ago and have been extremely satisfied. I like being able to look into the rear camera and get a visual indication that the system is working when the air brakes are applied (small LED light bar mounted on the back of the TOAD’s rear view mirror). A bit pricey but great piece of mind, for us.
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John & Linda Eibeck 
2014 Phaeton 40QBH
"Roughing it Smoothly"
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08-03-2018, 05:38 AM
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#46
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Junior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Ocala, Florida
Posts: 12
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I have been pleased with the M&G on my 2007 Dodge Dakota. Our gas coach came with the Roadmaster air compressor for the 9000 series. It worked perfectly with the M&G - only required changing one quick disconnect.
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08-03-2018, 06:58 AM
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#47
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Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Midwest/Southwest
Posts: 41
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AF1 for 8 yrs/3 toads/1 coach and 2 BlueOx tow bars...best setup for me. Quick and easy as has been said. I opted to buy the remote "brake applied" gadget with the latest toad install just for assurance/peace-of-mind since I could rarely see the "in-the toad" LED light
Via the rear coach camera and I rather be watching the road ahead when braking anyway!
I vote for AirForce 1 and be done.
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08-03-2018, 07:27 AM
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#48
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5
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Airforce One Brake system
I had my Airforce One installed in 2011 on my 2002 used coach. It has been a simple connect since then. Just plug in the air line and connect the emergency breakaway cable and you are connected. Open the door of the car and watch the brake peddle go down when the coach brake is pushed and you are off. I love it! We driven it over fifty thousand miles since then with zero problems. The toad is a Chevy HHR 2011.
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08-03-2018, 08:20 AM
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#49
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Registered User
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Blairsville, GA & WPB, FL
Posts: 3,993
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DobeBus
Could you give more info on your build and install?
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A 1.5” diameter air cylinder puts the right amount of force on the bottom of the brake pedal once you bleed the vacuum off. I used a normal tarp bungee strap to pull the rod back. Using a simple small rope loop to fasten the end of the rod to the brake pedal takes 5 seconds. Running a 3/16th airline with quick connections is easy enough and any system has to tap onto the MH’s brake system to get air when needed. I used an extra plug on the air brake chamber (no T needed or tapping into the larger brake lines) on one of my tag axles brake chambers.
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08-03-2018, 08:32 AM
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#50
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Dan & Pam Nachel RVM #175 & 175a, three Doberman traveling companions
Posts: 415
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivylog
A 1.5” diameter air cylinder puts the right amount of force on the bottom of the brake pedal once you bleed the vacuum off. I used a normal tarp bungee strap to pull the rod back. Using a simple small rope loop to fasten the end of the rod to the brake pedal takes 5 seconds. Running a 3/16th airline with quick connections is easy enough and any system has to tap onto the MH’s brake system to get air when needed. I used an extra plug on the air brake chamber (no T needed or tapping into the larger brake lines) on one of my tag axles brake chambers.
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Sounds easy enough. I’m going to try and copy your handywork
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08-03-2018, 08:54 AM
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#51
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Full-timer/volunteer w/SOWERS
Posts: 3,910
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Quote:
Originally Posted by luqutus
air force one!
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DITTO! Did the install my self.
This system has no add-ons. If you loose your towed, for some strange reason, the break a way switch operates and the towed breaks are applied.
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Rick & Melissa Young, 2011 Itasca Meridian 40U, Frtliner XCL, Cummins ISL 380HP/DEF, Allison 3000 MH, 2014 Honda CR-V, SMI AF1, Blue Ox, EEZ TPMS, TruCenter steering control
Servants On Wheels Ever Ready. Best job we ever paid to do . (full time volunteers)
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08-03-2018, 11:04 AM
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#52
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Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Palm Coast, FL
Posts: 88
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Attended a seminar at a FMCA rally and was in the market for a brake system and asked that golden question- What's the best one out there? The Blue Ox rep said, "M&G". I had mine installed at an authorized shop in Nashville, TN. Never looked back. Supremely satisfied.
Phil
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07 Winnebago Voyage, Ford Chassis
12 Chevy Malibu
M&G Engineering Brake System
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08-03-2018, 12:43 PM
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#53
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 49
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Toad Braking
I installed a Roadmaster 9160. Bought used on Craigslist complete for $200, that included the breakaway system. Been using it for 10 years no problem. I like it's simplicity. Installed it myself.
One tip, I put a separate brake light switch that Then ran a wire up through the toad/coach connector with an LED light on the coach dash. That light lets me know for absolute sure that the brake pedal is being depressed.
good luck,
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08-03-2018, 01:09 PM
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#54
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Huffman, TX
Posts: 792
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M&G and after install is only one connection to tow. Connect air line connection! How can it get any easier.
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08-04-2018, 08:25 AM
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#55
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Full-timer/volunteer w/SOWERS
Posts: 3,910
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BJH
AF1 for 8 yrs/3 toads/1 coach and 2 BlueOx tow bars...best setup for me. Quick and easy as has been said. I opted to buy the remote "brake applied" gadget with the latest toad install just for assurance/peace-of-mind since I could rarely see the "in-the toad" LED light
Via the rear coach camera and I rather be watching the road ahead when braking anyway!
I vote for AirForce 1 and be done.
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As you can see from my signature, same equipment. I built a remote break light. I have a FOB transmitter in the car. The battery from the break lights powers it. I shorted the FOB button. Breaks on, FOB transmits. Wired the AF1 light strip to the receiver. Works great. Mounts on the coach dash. I don't have the exhaust break light option. Doesn't seem to matter.
AF1 support was great when SMI produced it. I see that the company is under a new banner. I hope the support is still good.
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Rick & Melissa Young, 2011 Itasca Meridian 40U, Frtliner XCL, Cummins ISL 380HP/DEF, Allison 3000 MH, 2014 Honda CR-V, SMI AF1, Blue Ox, EEZ TPMS, TruCenter steering control
Servants On Wheels Ever Ready. Best job we ever paid to do . (full time volunteers)
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08-05-2018, 11:02 AM
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#56
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Member
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 32
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Air Force One for me. And I am very happy after 6 years. Only problem I ever had was hooked up mid-day (in a hurry). With the glare on the windshield could not see the activation light in the rear view camera. Got under shade trees and no light. Stopped and the air line was not ingaged completely, snapped it into place, back in the cockpit, brake on, activation light on. And off we went. Installed it myself on both MH and Toad. It was a full day but I'm very picky. And I had access to a truck shop with a pit.
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