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Old 07-26-2018, 08:04 AM   #1
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Best Toad Brake For RV with Air Brakes?

Setting up a toad to pull behind my 36 foot pusher with air brakes. Any suggestions on best brake systems for toad. Air Force One?? Other?
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Old 07-26-2018, 08:08 AM   #2
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air force one!
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Old 07-26-2018, 08:11 AM   #3
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I've been using the M&G air brake system for 11 years. It was an easy install and has worked flawlessly. I can hook up my brake system in 5 seconds and be on my way without the hassle of setting up some box on the floor of my toad. I'm sure there are other systems out there that are equally as good, just reflecting my experience.
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Old 07-26-2018, 08:13 AM   #4
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I've used the M&G brake on three different toads. They have an exchange program if a different unit is required. The last one I installed myself. Nothing inside the cab and I only have to hook up the air hose with quick couplers. Best braking system I have owned.
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Old 07-26-2018, 08:23 AM   #5
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Another happy M&G user. You didn't specify what your toad is so you would have to check to see if they have a cylinder to fit. It's a simple air cylinder between the brake booster and the master cylinder that you never know it's there once installed. It does not pull or push the brake pedal, so there's no interference with the brake lights.
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Old 07-26-2018, 08:30 AM   #6
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Another vote for the M&G system - it's performing flawlessly for me. The folks at M&G are really nice people to work with. It took them about 3 hours to install on my Jeep and VTDP, which including the electrical wiring to taillights. I had the installation done at their shop north of Athens, TX.
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Old 07-26-2018, 08:56 AM   #7
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Can anyone ballpark the price for the M&G unit as you've described? I wasn't able to find anything for pricing on their site.
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Old 07-26-2018, 09:00 AM   #8
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Best Toad Brake For RV with Air Brakes?

I installed the M&G system on my 99 Jeep GC and just his year, I sold the Jeep and bought the cylinder to install into my 2010 Honda CRV. I did this because it allowed me to use the emergency braking add ons which saved me quite. It turned that the discount for returning the old cylinder no longer applied because it was too old. The installation, which I did myself was a bitch, mainly because the Honda shoehorned Everything into the engine compartment. The one thing which was not expected and wasn’t in the instructions was that the air cleaner box wouldn’t fit back in place. It required a bit of work with a heat hun to heat and remold the cover lid to make it fit under the moved master cylinder. I had to be especially careful because the lid is on the engine side of the air filter and any leaks would admit unfiltered air to the engine.

The newer CRVs are not towable 4 down, so not very many will be facing this problem.

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Old 07-26-2018, 09:05 AM   #9
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M&G Car Braking Systems For RVs With Air Brakes - By M&G Engineering |
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Thanks Crasher! That does answer that question.
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Old 07-26-2018, 09:48 AM   #11
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I must be the odd one out here but have the Air Force 1 system and do love it.
Seems a bit expensive, even just switching toads.
I think complete install was about $3700.
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:08 AM   #12
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We like the ready brute elite. it has a mechanical (cable) connection to the toad brake pedal which activates the toad's own braking system. Pretty simple and reliable.-Paul
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:43 AM   #13
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In my humble opinion, Air Force One and the M&G Engineering are the best out there for cost/installation/and ease of use. You can't beat hooking up one small 1/4 inch air line in maybe 5 seconds and be done. If you opt for the emergency breakaway, then that adds a small cable that needs to be snapped into place.

I have been using the M&G Engineering system for 18 years now on 5 different toads. I installed all of them myself. The 2009 and the 2014 Honda CRV's were a challenge, but doable.
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We have used both the M&G and the Air-Force-One.

The first toad (2007 Honda CR-V), we had the M&G installed. On the second toad (2013 Honda CR-V), the new Honda redesign made the M&G a more expensive install taking 8 hours of labor vs. the 3-4 on the Air-Force-One. So, we went with the Air-Force-One.

On the new toad (in sig), we went with Air-Force-One again along with the Roadmaster base plate and a NEW Roadmaster tow bar. Everything with labor, taxes and all new equipment was a hair over $5K.

Previously, I used the Blue Ox tow bar and base plate on the Honda's. It was time to get a new tow bar anyway and we decided to stay with the same brand of the new equipment (Roadmaster).

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