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Old 05-03-2018, 04:33 PM   #29
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What is the downside to a tow dolly?
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Old 05-03-2018, 04:41 PM   #30
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Are there any vehicles that can be modified more easily or less costly than others?
Not really. They all need the same preparations for towing four down: a tow bar, a base plate, wiring harness for the lights and (if you are wise) some sort of auxiliary brake system. These things are all common to any car that needs to be towed 4 down and can easily cost $3,000 or more installed. As stated above, fewer and fewer vehicles are towable four down these days as manufacturers change their transmissions in pursuit of greater gas fuel economy.

If you want to dolly tow (which I emphatically do not) you will just need a good tow dolly with brakes and a front wheel drive vehicle that fits on the dolly. This opens you up to a wider variety of towed vehicles and allows you to change towed vehicles much more easily, but it is much more of a hassle on a daily basis than towing four wheels down, and it requires that you have a place to store the tow dolly when not in use and at every camping stop.
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Brand new to motorhome, what is best vehicle that is tow ready?
You've seen all the replies so I don't have anything else to add except the link to the 'DinghyGuide':

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What is the downside to a tow dolly?
That's been covered here over time ad nauseum, but the short answer is, what do you do with it at the campground?

Aside from the obvious issue of having to manhandle the thing somewhere to get it out of the way, some campgrounds have rules limiting where you can park it.
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That's been covered here over time ad nauseum, but the short answer is, what do you do with it at the campground?

Aside from the obvious issue of having to manhandle the thing somewhere to get it out of the way, some campgrounds have rules limiting where you can park it.
Agree it has been covered over and over here.

But unlike the opinion above, we know that in the very rare event that the dolly must be stowed, it can easily be ROLLED under your motorhome. In the very, very rare event that the RV park (which probably would have the name "Resort" in the title) asks you to park the dolly off site, they will usually offer a place to park it...and probably for free with the cost of your spot.

In our many years using a dolly, we've only needed to park it off site once because the park gave-away our reserved pull-through. Gave it to a big DP and stacker that really needed it...no problem, the toad has a light-duty receiver to easily park the dolly where there was room.

At most all spots we stay, the dolly just stays on the hook. And in the off season, our dolly can be stored standing-up on it's back-end against a wall. So easy

And pro's to using a dolly are plentyful...
We can swap toads as we wish at no cost - and have done so many times, there's no mods to the car, lights and supplimental brakes are integral to the dolly, there's no lost value at the toad's resale with the buyer knowing there's hidden miles on the car, and most any front wheel drive car, SUV, or crossover can be our dingy. Easy as pie

Best vehicle to tow? We can recommend any of hundreds of front wheel drive models on a dolly

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I have never had to store my EEZ-Tow dolly off-site. Sometimes I park it at the back of the parking space and back the coach over top of the tongue, then it just sticks out 2 feet. Other times there is plenty of space to park it somewhere on the corner of the lot. At home it stands upright in the garage and only takes up 2 ft of floor space 8 ft long.
I added a swivel tongue leg/wheel to move it about the campsite, easy to do. At home I can connect to the hitch on the toad to bring it up to my garage.
Yes there are Cons but there are also Pros to a dolly as stated previously.
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Old 05-05-2018, 04:35 PM   #35
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Biggest draw back to a dolly might well be not all vechiles can be towed that way.
Then there are the items others mentioned.

Remember ther is no perfect way because if there was we would all do that. There is only the best way for someone based on their desires and needs.

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I find myself in the: not-a-dolly camp for a different reason... There is no way the two wheels with brakes equals anything of significant weight, with its 4 brakes to four tires on the ground.

You can leave it at: it is easy and you don't have to re-set up for each Toad. EASY being the operative word for folks that change Toads a lot. Safe being the word I wouldn't attach to a dolly with anything more than a light weight Toad...

Let alone I get to maintain another set of tires, brakes and bearings...

To each their own -- I don't plan to change Toads often, if at all...

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Biggest draw back to a dolly might well be not all vehicles can be towed that way...
The "not all vehicles" bit is right and I would submit that MOST vehicles cannot be flat towed...
...Biggest drawback to four down?
Maybe, but the cost and complexity of modifications to the toad for successful flat towing is major. We know, we''ve done both.

Lucky for us all, there are alternatives.

Flat towing is great, but too expensive and restrictive for us. We can VERY SAFELY tow any front wheel drive car, SUV, or van, even those weighing over 4,900lb and the dolly brakes are on the front of the car, where it is well known that over 60% of braking takes place. Plus the car's drive-line doesn't take any use with the dolly's free wheeling axle and fully automatic surge disc brakes saving all the work from the car = less maint.

Best vehicle that is Tow Ready? Still believe that is any flat tow that is already set-up...or any front wheel drive car on a dolly

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Biggest drawback to four down...the cost and complexity of modifications to the toad for successful flat towing is major. We know, we''ve done both.
Meh...just tow a Wrangler, and 4-down issues and "complexities" are non-existent.
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OK?...There's nothing complex with:

*Base plates specific for that toad (permanently added into the toad's critical crush zone),
*Tow bar and associated hardware specific for that bar-plate set-up,
*Supplemental Lights,
*Supplemental Brakes with integral break-away device (please get brakes, even if not required in your jurisdiction).
*Toad Ignition and/or Toad battery cut-out w/ steering lock defeat (as needed).

Not complex? If you say so

Jeeps are great and make fantastic toads...but nothing is problem free.

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Join the FMCA (Family Motor Coach Association) and look at their towing guide online. It's organized by model year, manufacturer and model.

Find a vehicle you like and then look it up, some vehicles have restrictions, others are more simple, the guide is very helpful.
Don't have to join the FMCA to see the dinghy towing guides.
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Best is best...cost, ease, and function are some of the things make-up users needs.

The OP is surely looking for suggestions on models that will not grenade if towed and the old CRV (not a new one ) and Jeep are always first on the list. But that demonstrates how the list of flat towable cars is getting shorter and shorter each year.

I have done both flat and dolly tow and know first hand the rather large expense and scope of modifications needed to get any car ready for four-down towing.

Just keeping it real
I don't think the facts support your opinion. More and more automatic transmission vehicles are flat towable each year. GM has a long list of towable vehicles from the Spark (manual only, not CRV) up through the other sedans all the way to the trucks.
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Facts are facts. Just look at the Dingy guide linked earlier in this thread...the list keeps shrinking.

Perfect examples are here...like the beloved Honda CR-V became not flat towable after 2014 and many new Jeep models can't either. But, at least most Wrangler models are still flat towable.

Our good ol' Ford Escape WAS recommended as flat towable...then Ford changed the rating after too many transaxles blew.

If anyone prefers flat towing...THAT IS GREAT . Just want to be realistic about what that entails. We did everything right...even had a very expensive integrated Roadmaster supplimental air over hydraulic brake system on the Coach to power the toad's brakes. Then Ford changed the game on us.
In contrast, never had one single issue with any of several cars on the dolly...easy as pie.

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