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02-20-2015, 09:39 AM
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Brakes
What, if anything, do you do for brakes on a toad JK?
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02-20-2015, 09:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kbm1751
What, if anything, do you do for brakes on a toad JK?
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kbm1751
What if anything is a "toad JK"?
Mel
'96 Safari
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02-20-2015, 12:46 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club
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jk = Jeep Wrangler, 2007-2015. There are a lot of options out there, I use an EvenBrake and am happy with it. I have 2 toads, so I move it between them depending on which one I am taking.
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02-20-2015, 01:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UsualSuspect
jk = Jeep Wrangler, 2007-2015. There are a lot of options out there, I use an EvenBrake and am happy with it. I have 2 toads, so I move it between them depending on which one I am taking.
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UsualSuspect
Thanks for the clarification
Unfortunately I still can't answer kbm1751's question, (I've never towed a "jk").....
However, I have towed a "SL" over 60,000 miles, (and "si" for 40k+).
Mel
'96 Safari
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02-20-2015, 05:26 PM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Location: Wellington, Florida
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Hi kbm1751,
Consider the USGEAR Unified Tow Brake. Go to Unified Tow Brake and read about it. The unit works as advertised and I would make the same purchase again. The unit can be wired into the umbilical to the coach so there are no extra connections. Charging of the toad's battery and actuating the toad brakes independent of the coach is part of the system. Been using the system since 2005 and about 100K miles.
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2005 Newmar KSDP 3910 + GMC ENVOY XUV 37K lbs Moving Down The Road
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02-21-2015, 08:27 AM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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You have options:
If you tow often then Blue ox has the Auto-Stop interegrated into some of their tow bars,, Ready Brake is intergrated into the Ready Brute tow bar and can also be pruchased as an add on,
These are Surge brake systems, Surge brakes, by their nature, are self most everyhing, Once properly set up they are porportional ((And self adjusting in this)) progressive (the harder you brake the harder they brake) and worry free, As the towed pushes against the motor home (When stopping) the brakes are applied via a mechanical system of cables and levers and a spring .
Do not forget to include the break away device (Ready Brake, do not know if Blue Ox has one of those...yet)
If you park for six months in the winter (more or less) these systems can have a problem, Rust on the cable can cause it to not release the brakes when you hit the accelerator.
US-Gear Unified Brake Decelerator: This is an electric/hydraulic system.
It too is porportional (Adjustable from motor home) and progressive,, The contrller in the motor home can disable the system, or engage the towed brakes manually without a foot on the motor home brakes.. The system provides for activation of a Hydroboost pump on toweds that have that or vacuum to the booster if that's how your towed stops.
Since this eats battery power it provides for the Motor home to replace same via a towed charge lead.. Very nice, the most control over towed brakes of any system, approaches that a semi driver has over his trailer.
Hookup is easy, plug in umbilical, hook up safety break-a-way cable, hook up towed lights. (2nd umbilical) Umbilicals may be combined.
Ivisible Brake: Does not use a brake umbilical, has less control by driver (But to be honest,,, i only used that extra control one time) Works off the brake/tail light circuit or control and charging of towed battery.
Several other systems like the SMI, Stay & Play, Air Force one (this one can be run off motor home provided compressed air) and more.
All of these are invisible to the driver save for a small bracket on the brake pedal arm.. Install one time, and for the most part, forget 'em save for plugging in.
M&G, this one uses motor home supplied compressed air and bypasses the vacuum booster, it goes between the booster and the master cylinder. TOTALY invisible to the driver.. Best for most jeeps being pulled by a motor home with air brakes.. Disadvantage, Slave (the part on the jeep) is model dependent.
And finally we have the ones I do not recommend:
Box in the driver's seat, Apolo, Even brake, Brake Buddy
These pedal pushers need to be installed EVERY TIME YOU TOW, then removed and stored when you drive the jeep. Way too much chance of an "opps I goofed" or of "Oh it is too much work or this short trip" and regretting it later.
However i you have a stable of toweds.. You can use these in every one o 'em without having to buy multiple systems.
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02-21-2015, 09:54 AM
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Junior Member
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Brake
Looking@ all the options, I can't seem to figure which one would be the bang for the buck......... Anymore thoughts?
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02-21-2015, 12:04 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wellington, Florida
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Hi kbm1751,
You are down to a level of detail that only you can decide. For me, this is a one time purchase. Cost should not be the deciding factor. Consider the deciding factor to be are the tasks involved to connect/disconnect okay for you. If you do not like the tasks, you'll hate the system every time you interact with it. The tasks are where you get the bang for the buck. The major manufacturers have been in business for many years. They all work. Do they work for you?
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2005 Newmar KSDP 3910 + GMC ENVOY XUV 37K lbs Moving Down The Road
The Avatar Is Many Times Around The USA
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