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02-28-2012, 07:27 PM
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Can i tow this 4 down?
Ok, so i have searched the forum and internet with no luck to my answer. I have a 1999 Jeep Cherokee xj, it has a chevy 400 conversion V8, it has a 700r4 transmission and 231 transfer case. My question is can i tow it 4 down?
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02-28-2012, 08:30 PM
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Good luck with this one. My post will put it back on top. My thoughts : transfer case in neutral and trans in park. This is only my thought I have nothing to back it up.
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02-28-2012, 08:41 PM
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Driveshaft disconnect possibly. I guess there are no locking hubs on front axle.
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02-28-2012, 08:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorLynn
Ok, so i have searched the forum and internet with no luck to my answer. I have a 1999 Jeep Cherokee xj, it has a chevy 400 conversion V8, it has a 700r4 transmission and 231 transfer case. My question is can i tow it 4 down?
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If the 231 xfer is original it has a true neutral position and thus can be flat towed. The transmission is of no concern providing the xfer has a true neutral position as the stock 231 had. The reason the transmission is of no concern is that the driveshafts turn the xfer gears before the transmission......so the place to provide a neutral position is in the xfer. The only practical way to check this that I know of is to stop the Jeep on a hill, put the trans in park and the transfer in neutral, release the brakes...............if it rolls without stripping the parking pawl then the xfer is truely in neutral.
Another fool-proof solution is to change all hubs to full floating....doing this will stop the driveshafts from turning while you are towing the Jeep. Mucho $$$.
Hope this helps you out.
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02-28-2012, 09:06 PM
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1) What does your owner manual say - it is the ONLY definitive resource
2) Try Application Charts | Remco Towing application charts
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02-28-2012, 09:22 PM
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The OP's Jeep is not stock..........it's been "molested".
But, you have a good suggestion for those folks that have a stock vehicle.
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02-28-2012, 09:33 PM
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The OP's Jeep is not stock..........it's been "molested".
But, you have a good suggestion for those folks that have a stock vehicle.
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 I rolled right over the Chey V8 part....  Sounds like a nifty conversion...
Do you know if the NP231 xfer will self lubricate under a neutral tow? I seem to recall some of the Dana xfer cases would and some wouldn't???? You're right, tow ability will rest in having a true neutral in the xfer case.
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02-28-2012, 09:44 PM
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The NP231 does not have a lube pump. It lubes by the gears running through a sump. The gears turn while being towed it's just the "un-mating" of the drive gears that provide the neutral.
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02-28-2012, 10:30 PM
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Sorry for late reply. I had to help my mom fix her internet  Thank you soooo much for answering my question  I was super excited to get home and log on to see if anyone had news for me. This is awesome. Thank you for taking time to help me. I will put my jeep on a hill tomorrow and do the xfer trick. I sure hope it has a true neutral
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02-29-2012, 07:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorLynn
Sorry for late reply. I had to help my mom fix her internet Thank you soooo much for answering my question I was super excited to get home and log on to see if anyone had news for me. This is awesome. Thank you for taking time to help me. I will put my jeep on a hill tomorrow and do the xfer trick. I sure hope it has a true neutral |
My best guess is that yout test will have a pleasing outcome for you.
Just so you have a little more comfort.......the 231 has been used for years beginning in the 80's and up until at least 2006. It was used in Wranglers and the Cherokees basic lines but not the GC.
They all had a true neutral.
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02-29-2012, 11:18 AM
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I have moved this thread into the Toad Forum (from the TV forum) where it should get more views.
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02-29-2012, 06:31 PM
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I have moved this thread into the Toad Forum (from the TV forum) where it should get more views.
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LOl...sorry And I was so proud I put it in the right place..Thank you for moving it for me
ok, update...my xfer case does have a true neutral  AND i took my jeep to the rv store today (where i will have my tow bar installed) and he said it is towable..im so happy 
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02-29-2012, 06:57 PM
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Doncha' just love it when a plan comes together.............
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