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07-22-2022, 06:56 AM
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Thor Owners Club Mid Atlantic Campers Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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Location: Warrenton Va
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Originally Posted by KingKid
I'm just getting into the MH and towing a Toad but I had a Camco Kar Kaddy SS lighly use giving to me, it's a no brainer I also was thinking about flat towing but that would have been a little more money maybe one day in the future but since the KK was giving to me I want worry about it.
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Flat-tow is certainly a superior method if you have the right toad. But, some toads are easier than others, and very few are ideal. If I have to crawl under the vehicle to disconnect a drive shaft, to me, that isn't viable. If I have to run the engine at every second fuel stop, that's too much trouble. Even tapping into the brake light wiring seems like a hack job. No thanks. The Civic is still totally unmodified, ready to drive and ready to sell if I decide to change vehicles.
With the new and used car markets as messed up as they are right now, I decided to hang onto the perfectly good 2016 Honda Civic that I already own.
I did take a hard look at aluminum flat bed trailers and almost bought one.
But, I ultimately decided that those things are too heavy, too expensive, and too bulky to store. And, an electric brake controller is just another piece of equipment that I don't want.
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07-22-2022, 07:52 AM
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Thor Owners Club Mid Atlantic Campers Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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Location: Warrenton Va
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not a total bed of roses
I don't want to leave the impression that pulling a tow dolly is the greatest thing since sliced bread. There are definitely some disadvantages and annoyances. - a tow dolly weighs significantly more than a flat-tow yoke setup
- backing up a loaded tow dolly is nearly impossible
- loading or unloading takes 10-15 minutes, including straps and safety chains.
- the overall width of a tow dolly is 102 inches, wider than my Class-C. Keeping it on the road requires extra attention.
But, overall, the advantages easily outweigh the bad in my situation.
I get to keep my 2016 Civic with no modifications, need no electric brake controller, and I don't have to buy another car. In Virginia, the dolly does not even need to be registered (no plates).
When the motorhome broke down 300 miles from home, having a toad was a blessing. We were able to leave the MH at a Ford dealer and come back for it a week later.
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07-22-2022, 10:09 AM
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Location: Chantilly, VA
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I have that exact dolly. It is a quality product and you'll like it. You saved a bundle on assembling it yourself.
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Originally Posted by WileyOne
I've been shopping dollies for the past week. Pretty sure I've seen everything out there. Here is what I've learned:
It will be no surprise to anybody that prices are up sharply since I was shopping three years ago. I'm guessing nearly 50%.
After eliminating the junk, I found 11 models to consider. Including tax and shipping, the prices ranged from $2100 to $5500
What type of brakes? You can get surge-disc brakes, or surge-drum brakes, or electric-drum brake. But, I have not found anything with electric-disc brakes. Disc brakes are simpler, more effective, and require less maintenance. But, if you want them, they only come with a surge actuator.
There are three types of steering mechanisms:
1. fixed deck. The steering wheel of the toad is left unlocked so the wheels can turn. Least expensive.
2. pivot deck. The steering wheel of the toad is immobilized. The front wheels of the toad sit on a deck that pivots through turns. Most common.
3. dolly wheels steer. Like a grain wagon, the wheels of the dolly turn to follow the hitch. Easiest on the tires, but most expensive.
Painted or galvanized? Galvanized is much more expensive.
There are no aluminum dollies.
Assembled or unassembled? If you don't mind lugging a 500 lb axle in your garage, you can have a tow dolly shipped to your home and you can assemble it yourself. That will save you over $1000 compared to picking it up at a terminal.
For me, the Demco Kar Kaddy SS was the clear winner if price is no object.
Sadly, price does matter, so I will have to skip galvanized, wheels that steer, and the folding tongue/ramps.
The Kar Kaddy X has everything else that I want:
low profile, LED taillights, easy tilt-latch mechanism, good quality ratchets, plastic fenders, big radial tires, quality construction, and yes, surge-disc brakes.
I may be back here in a year to tell you all why I hate it, but for now, I'm giving it a go.
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07-23-2022, 02:56 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WileyOne
Flat-tow is certainly a superior method if you have the right toad. But, some toads are easier than others, and very few are ideal. If I have to crawl under the vehicle to disconnect a drive shaft, to me, that isn't viable. If I have to run the engine at every second fuel stop, that's too much trouble. Even tapping into the brake light wiring seems like a hack job. No thanks. The Civic is still totally unmodified, ready to drive and ready to sell if I decide to change vehicles.
With the new and used car markets as messed up as they are right now, I decided to hang onto the perfectly good 2016 Honda Civic that I already own.
I did take a hard look at aluminum flat bed trailers and almost bought one.
But, I ultimately decided that those things are too heavy, too expensive, and too bulky to store. And, an electric brake controller is just another piece of equipment that I don't want.
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I agree with you sir I thought about all of that so that's why I started looking for the tow dolly but a good friend in my church found one and bought it and gave it to me, what's not to like.
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2022 Jayco Precept 36C
2023 Chevy Trailblazer (Toad)
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07-23-2022, 04:50 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: West Georgia
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Originally Posted by KingKid
Those look pretty nice and the cost is not bad, which one did you get the 8' 1/2 or the 9' one?
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The 9 give you more versatility with for various vehicles over the long term. As I mentioned I've towed a variety of vehicles over the years and the 9 gave me the room I needed for all the various sizes. Don't notice the width as its still within the width of the moho mirrors and i like being able to eyeball the dolly tires in the mirror when on the road.
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2016 Winnebago Adventurer 38Q +tow dolly
8th RV to sit in our driveway in 40 years
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07-24-2022, 02:17 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2022
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Originally Posted by Americanrascal
The 9 give you more versatility with for various vehicles over the long term. As I mentioned I've towed a variety of vehicles over the years and the 9 gave me the room I needed for all the various sizes. Don't notice the width as its still within the width of the moho mirrors and i like being able to eyeball the dolly tires in the mirror when on the road.
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Yes sir, thank you.
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