View Poll Results: Have you witnessed a TOAD becoming detached in motion?
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Yes, a partion detachment happened to me, safety cables, etc. held
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A full detachement has happened to me, TOAD ended up in ditch, etc.
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I have watched it happen to others
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I have seen the likely aftermath, TOADs in ditch, motorhomes dragging tow bars, base plates, etc.
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12.50% |
No, never seen it , never seen the aftermath
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80.00% |
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08-27-2021, 02:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: SW Louisiana
Posts: 8,850
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Detached TOAD survey
Here is a simple survey for you, have you experienced a detached TOAD car, either partly or fully detached, or have you seen it happen to someone else, either in action as it happened, or seen a TOAD in a ditch on the side of the road. Seeing it in photos or on youtube does not count.
p.s. personally I have seen 2 TOADs in ditches with no people around that were likely, but not proven to be detachments, one was a Jeep Wrangler about 100 feet of the side of I-49 with tow bar on the front, the other was a Jeep Grand Cherokee in the ditch on the side of the Natchez Trace parkway (park ranger was coming on the scene with his lights on as I approached, no signs of people around).
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2002 Safari Trek 2830 on P32 Chassis with 8.1L w/ 400 watts solar 420Ah LiFePo4
2017 Jeep Cherokee Overland & 2007 Toyota Yaris TOADs with Even Brake,
Demco Commander tow bar and Blue Ox / Roadmaster base plates
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08-27-2021, 02:17 PM
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#2
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Manitoba, Canada
Posts: 970
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No, I not seen a detached toad in my travels.
Terry
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2002 Monaco Windsor 40PKD. Marjorie 2.
2015 Equinox V6 Roadmaster tow setup
2019 ALP Adventurer 24DS for the short trips. April, 2021
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08-27-2021, 02:22 PM
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#3
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Posts: 6,398
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I "lost" a pin twice before I switched to locking ones. Installer (me) error? or ???
I found both almost all the way out before the Toad disconnected completely.
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Wayne & Roberta
08 Winnebago Destination 39W Gas UFO Workhorse Chassis......It's really weird being the same age as old people. I thought getting old would take much longer.
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09-01-2021, 04:27 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Shrewsbury, PA
Posts: 202
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At a campground I talked with a guy who just had a baseplate failure. One of the two towbar arms had detached. (broken weld on baseplate)
He looked in his mirror and his toad was positioned way over to the left.
There was damage to the toad bumper cover and the rear bumper of the DP which happened as he was stopping.
He did not have a braking system in the toad.
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Ron and Dagmar, Retired
2016 Jayco Greyhawk 29MV.... 2000 Jeep TJ Toad
2009 Mustang GT (DW's DD)...2009 Mustang Bullitt (My Toy)
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09-01-2021, 04:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 4,645
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Almost lost my golf cart once because I forgot to put the hitch pin in. Friction kept the trailer attached until I got on the highway. Safety chains held.
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09-01-2021, 05:02 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,996
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Overnighting at Walmart, Staunton, several years ago when a DP came on the lot with one half of hitch detached from DP frame and the other half bent to 30 degrees. A true wonder!!!!
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TandW
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09-01-2021, 06:58 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Blount County TN
Posts: 305
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UFO Pilot
I "lost" a pin twice before I switched to locking ones. Installer (me) error? or ???
I found both almost all the way out before the Toad disconnected completely.
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OK - I'll 'fess up. On our current trip, a few days ago, shortly after we pulled out of the site and onto the highway, had the rear view camera on and noticed the Wrangler starting to swerve back and forth. Quickly pulled over onto the shoulder and found that the tow bar had slipped out of the receiver and the Jeep was up against the coach, but safety chains saved our bacon! The locking pin and the anti-rattle bracket were both MIA! Pretty sure I have to chalk that up to my error - when I took it all apart to re-torque the anti-rattle brackets (I also have one on the drop hitch), I must have left the locking pin off. Found the "missing" locking pin in the box where I keep all my spare hookup parts - no idea why I put it there when I inspected and re-torqued. I do remember getting side-tracked in the process, though - not that that's an excuse... Glad the camera was on!
Tow bar was scraped up a bit, but otherwise looks none the less for wear. Demco Commander, by the way - kudos to them! However, will surely be checking it throughout the trip!
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Mickey Richaud
2023 Winnebago View 24D
2020 Chevy Equinox Premier 2.0
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09-01-2021, 01:06 PM
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#8
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: West Georgia
Posts: 1,001
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Around 1990 I was towing an 89 Jeep Cherokee behind our Class A. Coming off a steep hill in Nova Scotia I heard a grinding noise. (This was pre rear camera days for us) I asked the tired and grumpy DW to proceed to the rear window and she snarled back at me to, "ignore it there's nothing wrong" and that I was just being a nervous nellie. I implored her to proceed to the rear window which she did with significant grumbles. Upon her arrival at that rear window station she let out a blood curling scream, hollering, "DON'T STOP DONLT STOP!"
At that point I glanced out my left drivers side mirror and observed the Cherokee initiating a move to pass me on the drivers side. I did not slam on the brakes but coasted to a stop on the shoulder as fast as possible without sudden braking. I got out and ran around back and found the base plate, which went through the bumper to the frame had ripped off along with the entire front bumper. It was holding on only by a small piece of steel attached to the drivers side. The safety cables were still in place but seemed to have enough slack to begin initiating the drivers side pass.
It all held but the Mrs. had the honor of driving the Jeep all the way back to Georgia for repairs. I found I had the wrong base plate attachment and installed the correct ones. Luckily some frame welding was all that was required and I salvaged the bumper. No other damage noted.
Watching your toad initiate a legally proper left side pass (without signals) is always exciting.
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Joe a/k/a "Americanrascal"
2016 Winnebago Adventurer 38Q +tow dolly
8th RV to sit in our driveway in 40 years
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09-01-2021, 01:36 PM
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#9
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Melbourne Beach, FL
Posts: 1,945
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Nope...never seen one or experienced a toad disconnect. (And I hope I NEVER DO!)
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2005 Newmar Essex 4502
1997 Suzuki Sidekick JX, Spokane, WA (Hoping to replace this soon)
1997 RexAir 32' Ford F53 Chassis, Banks system.
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09-01-2021, 01:54 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 8,108
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I had a baseplate come loose and nearly depart the car while towing. Didn't detach but was loose and tore up the attached structure on the car. Over $3000 to repair the car and reinstall tow bar. Turns out installer did not apply the required Locktite on the bolts when installing. Installer was a Blu-Ox dealer and Blue-Ox got them to pay for the damage. Could have been much worse had the car come completely off.
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Marc and Jill, Wellington FL
2013 Entegra Anthem 44SL
2018 Lincoln MKX
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09-01-2021, 02:28 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Merritt, BC
Posts: 3,753
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Here's a 2015 Jeep Cherokee that partially detached due to the inherent tow wobble problem. Driver said he was doing approximately 55 mph when the violet back and forth shaking first started.
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Bob, Sherron & Kinsey (RIP 2013-2022)
2017 Tiffin Phaeton 40QBH
2014 Jeep Cherokee Limited
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09-01-2021, 02:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 821
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On our very first trip, the car nearly came off the TOW DOLLY. After about 50 miles of driving, I pulled off the highway and to our shock and horror, both of the big wheel straps were gone! These two straps is what holds the front wheels to the dolly. The only thing keeping car from rolling off the dolly was the shallow pan the front wheels sit in and the car was in PARK. That's all! Turns out the front suspension cut through both straps at that same location.
Since then I bought different straps and relocated the mounting method.
Once I drove the car up, then on and right OFF the wrong end of the dolly...but that's for another survey!
John
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John & Debbie
2008 Fleetwood Discovery 40X
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