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06-13-2012, 05:12 PM
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Monaco Owners Club Holiday Rambler Owners Club
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Do I need a brake system ?
If I tow my car with a tow dolly, do I need a Brake Buddy or equal?
We are looking for a Dolly with elec. brakes on the wheels.
Larry
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06-13-2012, 05:21 PM
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Dolly with elec brakes should be fine just need a brake controller to activate the brakes on dolly
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06-13-2012, 05:24 PM
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Location: White City, Oregon
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Simple answer is 'yes.'
That's a lot of weight behind you and 'Newton' got it right a few hundred years ago.
fae
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06-13-2012, 05:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry & Rita
If I tow my car with a tow dolly, do I need a Brake Buddy or equal?
We are looking for a Dolly with elec. brakes on the wheels.
Larry
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No, NOT a Brake Buddy, those go inside your car when you tow with all 4
wheels on the ground, WITHOUT a dolly.
Personally, I prefer surge brakes to electric brakes on a dolly. With electric
brakes on a dolly, you need to install a brake controller inside the MH.
With surge brakes there is nothing else to install, they just work automatically
when the MH slows, it applies the surge brakes that are built into the dolly.
You can tow the dolly with any vehicle and not worry about having to move the
controller.
All you need for the surge brake dolly is the wires to make the tail lights work.....
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06-19-2012, 01:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sequim Guy
No, NOT a Brake Buddy, those go inside your car when you tow with all 4
wheels on the ground, WITHOUT a dolly.
Personally, I prefer surge brakes to electric brakes on a dolly. With electric
brakes on a dolly, you need to install a brake controller inside the MH.
With surge brakes there is nothing else to install, they just work automatically
when the MH slows, it applies the surge brakes that are built into the dolly.
You can tow the dolly with any vehicle and not worry about having to move the
controller.
All you need for the surge brake dolly is the wires to make the tail lights work.....
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Actually, American Car Dolly (google it) makes a dolly with electric brakes that does not require any special wiring and gets its power from your two brake lights. I bought a used one last week for $800.00 on CL
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06-19-2012, 01:19 PM
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Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry & Rita
If I tow my car with a tow dolly, do I need a Brake Buddy or equal?
We are looking for a Dolly with elec. brakes on the wheels.
Larry
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NO, the dolly brakes are sufficient.
Our dolly has surge brakes and they also work well.
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06-19-2012, 01:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fredaevans
Simple answer is 'yes.'
That's a lot of weight behind you and 'Newton' got it right a few hundred years ago.
fae
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Larry says the dolly has brakes, he was asking if he needed more than that.
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06-19-2012, 01:35 PM
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Monaco Owners Club Texas Boomers Club
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Question: How do you get "break-away" brakes with a surge set-up? A break-away system is required in lots more states than the pure toad brake system...
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06-19-2012, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D
Larry says the dolly has brakes, he was asking if he needed more than that.
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No, as long as the dolly has functioning brakes, you don't want brakes on
the vehicle that is on the dolly. That would be dangerous.
Quote:
Originally Posted by H. Miller
Question: How do you get "break-away" brakes with a surge set-up? A break-away system is required in lots more states than the pure toad brake system...
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There is a spring built into some surge brake systems that applies the
brakes when the dolly "brakes-away".
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06-19-2012, 05:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by H. Miller
Question: How do you get "break-away" brakes with a surge set-up? A break-away system is required in lots more states than the pure toad brake system...
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Ous has a cable that attaches to the MH and sets the dolly brakes when pulled, that's the break-away.
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07-06-2012, 05:59 PM
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I have been told that if the Dolly has Electric Brakes all you need is the Break-away system with the plug in lanyard. I am trying to find information in plain english for a newbie to the tow dolly. I have a 32ft. Coachmen MH and want to pull a Honda Fit 2008 on a dolly. I also want it as inexpensively as possible. Help!!!!
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07-06-2012, 06:00 PM
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Fit is towable four down, why go with a dolly?
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Charter Good Sam Lifetime Member, FMCA,
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '21 Jeep JLU Rubicon Ecodiesel
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07-06-2012, 06:24 PM
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Get a dolly with electric brakes or at least surge brakes. That is all you need.
When we towed on a dolly, I did add lights to the car as well as the dolly.
Ken
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07-06-2012, 06:27 PM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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If you tow with a dolly
1: DO NOT put any kind of braking system on the car itself (Make sure the dolly has some kind of brake system, Surge (Is common on dollys and trailers) or electric.
2: Allow additional stopping distance (distance between your rig and the vehicle in front of you.
Imagine, for a second, you had brakes on the towed and they engaged... The wheel straps. WILL NOT hold the car on the dolly, major mess.
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