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12-02-2020, 08:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 455
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Just made my first journey towing 4 down.
I bought a Jeep Wrangler to be able to tow 4 down since I was tired of towing a car hauler trailer.
I purchased and installed all of the gear on the Jeep. Tow bar, base plates, wiring harness and the brake system for the Jeep.
I made a test run towing the Jeep behind my F-150 truck. All went well except it seemed a little squirrely on some curves.
When I hooked to the MH, I didn't even know it was behind me except for looking at my rearview camera.
I made about 850 miles today and it worked out like a dream. Everything worked perfect and hookup and disconnect is a breeze.
It sure beats hooking up to a trailer, loading a car on a trailer and strapping down all 4 wheels, then doin it in reverse order and trying to find a place to dump the trailer.
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12-02-2020, 09:20 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 225
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Glad your first 4 down trip went perfect. And it was a long one.
I have towed both ways and I agree with you that four down is far easier than hooking up vehicle on trailer.
And you don’t have to deal with the trailer when you stop.
Just be sure to follow your procedure perfectly and don’t get distracted when you are hooking up and preparing to tow.
I use a TPMS that covers my tow vehicle tires as well.
Good Luck.
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Hal and Pam
2017 Entegra Cornerstone - B
2020 Ford Edge ST
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12-02-2020, 09:52 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 19
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Congrats on your new toad experience! I would only add if you haven't already found out that the safety cables, brake lines, etc. get a lot of road grime on them. I always have a set of workers gloves in my bag for connecting and disconnecting the toad to keep from getting that stuff all over the toad and RV.
Cheers!
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12-03-2020, 06:50 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Apollo Beach & Key West , FL
Posts: 2,641
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Down South
I bought a Jeep Wrangler to be able to tow 4 down since I was tired of towing a car hauler trailer.
I purchased and installed all of the gear on the Jeep. Tow bar, base plates, wiring harness and the brake system for the Jeep.
I made a test run towing the Jeep behind my F-150 truck. All went well except it seemed a little squirrely on some curves.
When I hooked to the MH, I didn't even know it was behind me except for looking at my rearview camera.
I made about 850 miles today and it worked out like a dream. Everything worked perfect and hookup and disconnect is a breeze.
It sure beats hooking up to a trailer, loading a car on a trailer and strapping down all 4 wheels, then doin it in reverse order and trying to find a place to dump the trailer.
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Glad its working for you---- 850 mile day--- that's quite a drive. I used to do those when I was working, but now take my time and limit to 400 or less.
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2015 F-150 toad with kayaks,bicycles and a Harley in the back
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12-03-2020, 08:16 AM
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Senior Member
Holiday Rambler Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 8,420
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Great report. May is suggest a check list laminated and left in the Jeep?
Be sure to follow the manual on starting if that is needed during the trip.
Towing four down is a pleasure. No backing up of course and don't take the corners too sharp. One danger is going through a deep drop while making a turn out of a parking lot. Don't want to kiss the jeep unless it has just gotten out of a frame level mud hole.
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08 HR Endeavor 40 SKQ
2016 Ford F150 Limited V6 with Ready Brake
Aluminator tow bar, Demco base plate
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12-03-2020, 08:52 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 455
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Quote:
I made about 850 miles today and it worked out like a dream. Everything worked perfect and hookup and disconnect is a breeze.
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Typo on my part. The trip was about 850 miles combined in two trips. 425 miles to destination, stay several days and 425 miles back to the house.
The only thing that I don't like about my setup is the wiring harness for the Jeep doesn't illuminate the side marker lights of the Jeep.
I ordered and received the diodes to wire the marker lights. An easy enough job to accomplish.
On the backing up part. I will miss the trailer for that. It was easy to back up. I'll have to make sure that I can pull through on stops for fuel, etc. But if I do run into a scenario that would require having to back up. I timed myself hooking up the Jeep and it takes about one minute.
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12-03-2020, 09:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Out there, somewhere
Posts: 8,546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Down South
Typo on my part. The trip was about 850 miles combined in two trips. 425 miles to destination, stay several days and 425 miles back to the house.
The only thing that I don't like about my setup is the wiring harness for the Jeep doesn't illuminate the side marker lights of the Jeep.
I ordered and received the diodes to wire the marker lights. An easy enough job to accomplish.
On the backing up part. I will miss the trailer for that. It was easy to back up. I'll have to make sure that I can pull through on stops for fuel, etc. But if I do run into a scenario that would require having to back up. I timed myself hooking up the Jeep and it takes about one minute.
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Well,
Glad it's working out for ya. We've been towing Jeeps now for oh, maybe 25-30 years or so. And, I've set all of ours ( 9 Jeeps to be specific) to be flat towed and, when I did the wiring, I'd set it up so the side marker and front running lights (not headlights) would also work. That way, I could monitor how close I was coming to a corner of the Jeep if and when I was making a tighter turn at night.
As for backing up, yeah, pre-planning is the name of the game here. We've been caught a time or two in a predicament where I could not back up and was sort-a pinned in. And yes, we too have the disconnect process down to about 45 seconds or so.
Our coach is an '04 Itasca Horizon 36GD with the CAT C-7 330HP and, together with us hauling our motorcycle on the back of the coach AND towing our '15 Jeep JKUR, we're hovering around 55'-60' long. So, planning for fuel, sometimes takes a *drive by* at a slow rate, to gain knowledge of the layout of a fuel station, so I could go around the block and then turn in. And I'm really glad we've done that a few times rather than *commit* before we knew a situation/area.
Scott
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2004 ITASCA HORIZON 36GD, 2011 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4 Toad '18 Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports DCT
Retired-29.5 yrs, SDFD, Ham - KI6OND
Me, Karla and the Sophie character, (mini Schnauzer)
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12-03-2020, 09:46 PM
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Senior Member
Freightliner Owners Club Overland Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Mid-Missouri
Posts: 765
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Just made my first journey towing 4 down.
Good to hear it is working out well for you. We are on our 3rd year of 4-down towing our Wrangler.
42’ pusher with a 2-door on the tow bar. Yea, we are long.
As far as gas stops, use Google Maps to look at the lot you are planning to go in to. You can plan the in and out before you get there. Works good for food stops, too.
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1998 42' Overland Larado Diesel Pusher
On the road - here and there - Full Timing
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12-04-2020, 10:35 AM
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Senior Member/RVM #90
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Columbus, MS
Posts: 44,532
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I would never use a tow dolly! Waaay too much trouble!
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Sometimes I sits and thinks, sometimes I just sits.....
2002 Monaco Windsor 40PBT, 2013 Honda CRV AWD
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12-04-2020, 10:42 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 455
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MSHappyCampers
I would never use a tow dolly! Waaay too much trouble! 
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Me either, I was using a car trailer. The car that I was hauling wouldn't have been able to be towed on a dolly anyway. It was rear wheel drive.
I traded the car for the Wrangler. The Wrangler is now the new daily driver for the wife.
She's happy, I'm happy, so it was a big win all the way around.
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12-04-2020, 10:47 AM
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Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,660
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Only once have I been caught in a spot that I couldn't get out. Had the son with me and had him get in the toad and hold the wheel and backed up far enough to get out of a jamb.
Last trip I had the 15 year grandson do it so I wasn't hogging the parking lot. Told him where I wanted him to aim for and had phone contact. He was rather proud of his job.
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12-04-2020, 06:55 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 248
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Yep, great choice on going with the Jeep and doing the install. No Regrets!
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12-07-2020, 10:44 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Utah
Posts: 2,122
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Glad to hear your first trip was a success. Flat towing is soooooo much more convenient than a trailer.
We've done both over the past 25+ years now. We used to haul our Jeeps in our 26' enclosed race trailer so we could also bring our Harley along with us. However, we found we weren't riding the bike as much as we thought as we enjoy finding off road trails so much and now just flat tow. We found that even when stopping for an overnighter we'll disconnect the Jeep to go see the area or grab some dinner whereas with the trailer we would plan on eating in the coach when traveling with the trailer until we hit our final destination.
We sold our enclosed trailer about 4 years ago and now just flat tow our JKUR. Even on 37" tires it flat tows like a dream.
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12-07-2020, 06:24 PM
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Registered User
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: La Verne, Calif
Posts: 3,558
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I travel alone with two big dogs. A MH would be easier than the Ram and TT. But the no backing thing gets me. I have a great JKUR that just sits at home cuz I got no way to get it anywhere. Plus finding a gas MH that can tow a 5K+ wrangler well is not easy. So sell the JKUR, sell the perfect Ram 2500 4x4 diesel, sell the trailer. Get a MH and something lighter to tow. I get 12MPG now and a MH towing would not get 9. I can go 70 up any grade now and a MH towing would be closer to 50. The MH thing just doesn't work for me. Wis it did.
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