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01-26-2013, 07:05 AM
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Kia Soul
I just received the news from a local Kia dealer that 4 down is not recommended for this vehicle nor any front wheel drive for that matter - they claim. I know many of you have FWD toads, so what, if anything do you do to overcome this problem (other than the obvious dolly)?
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01-26-2013, 07:14 AM
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According to Store : Remco Kia Soul's with manual transmission were towable (through 2011) but may no longer be offered.
The answer to the question of what vehicles can and cannot be towed 4-down is a vehicle-by-vehicle one--the correct answer is definitely not "none". IMHO I suggest you get your answers from qualified sources such as Remco or the Motorhome magazine annual dinghy guide. The salesperson you spoke with may or may not know about his own brand, but it is unlikely he has the correct information about any others.
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01-26-2013, 07:15 AM
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Look at the 2012 Tow dinghy guide from Motorhome Magazine: http://towingworld.com/pdfs/2012_din...wing_guide.pdf You can also find the guide for previous years. I believe your dealer is correct regarding a front wheel drive vehicle, and that it either needs to be 4WD or AWD.
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01-26-2013, 08:39 AM
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My Lexus is FWD and I've pulled it about 30,000 miles with no problem.
It's not 4WD.
I don't do anything special.
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01-26-2013, 01:09 PM
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The manual transmission Kia Soul IS towable 4-down (at least 2011). That's the reason we bought the manual transmission Soul, although we have yet to set it up for towing.
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01-26-2013, 01:31 PM
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It may be possible, it may even appear on lots of lists as possible.
BUT:
You don't say WHICH guy at Kia told you that...could this become a warranty issue? That is, could towing four-down void any part of a warranty?
Before asking at any place unrelated to the car manufacturer, I'd make darn sure of that point.
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01-27-2013, 06:31 AM
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Thanks everyone. It looks like its back to "square one" for us. Our 2012 Soul automatic is not tow-able.
Our next option is to rent a car when/if needed. Does anyone know of rental companies that offer deals across the US and Canada to frequent renters ?
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01-27-2013, 11:36 AM
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Is it out of the question to put the Kia on a trailer and tow that behind your moho?
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01-27-2013, 02:18 PM
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Also check owner's if not mentioned already. They've been known to get updated and changed as well but pretty reliable source as well.
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01-27-2013, 03:35 PM
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I agree about putting it on a dolly. We towed two different FWD cars on the dolly until I got the VW TDI Jetta manual Tranmission set up for flat towing. Would not hesitate to tow with the dolly again if I needed to do that. Any FWD car can be towed with a dolly, as long as it is high enough to get it up the ramp.
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01-27-2013, 08:49 PM
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Check with Remco Towing to see if they have a transmission lube pump for it. That is the usual solution for FWD cars that are not towable from the factory. Next choice is a dolly. Last choice is a trailer (or trade cars).
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01-27-2013, 09:55 PM
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Just looked it up on Remco and they say it must use a tow dolly.
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08-28-2013, 11:04 AM
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OK folks...the definitive answer from Kia. All Kia manual transmission vehicles can be towed 4 down. This is in Tech Bulletin GEN018, initially issued in September 2007, and Revised 11/2/2012. It is for all 2013 vehicles and earlier.
You can get your own copy by visiting www.kiatechinfo.com. You will need to create an account and sign in. If you cannot create an account, call Kia and they will create an account for you. Then search for GEN018.
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06-18-2015, 04:14 PM
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Does anyone have a copy of KIA Tech Bulletin GEN018? If so, can you post it! The website www.kiatechinfo.com now charges for access.
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