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12-14-2022, 04:06 PM
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Learning curve on toading
Is there much of a learning curve on flat wheel toading with a class C? Wife asked me about making right hand turns I told her I have no idea so I am asking now...Any tips etc..is always appreciated..
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12-14-2022, 04:24 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Learning curve on toading
You will find that your toad follows the motor home very well and minimal extra swing will be needed. To get a good understand of how your particular setup handles take it to a clear parking area and try a couple turns. Stop midway in the turn and get out and take a look at how it’s tracking.
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12-14-2022, 04:42 PM
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You'll be fine. I was in the same boat 3 years ago.
30.5' Class C.
I have a rear observation camera and can see the wheel cuts happening real time so if there's any concern for example on low speed turns I can see exactly where the toad is headed and change direction slightly if needed (never hit a curb, and always stayed on the roadway)
Otherwise your toad should track right behind you.
But I like to keep an eye on it no matter what the speed. Checking is easy, do it along with your mirror checks.
Read this sub category. Broken baseplates do happen and there have been reports of receiver tubes failing. You might want to relocate your motorhome breakaway cable somewhere else than your receiver tube gusset in case of a hitch failure.
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12-14-2022, 04:47 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club American Coach Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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If there is a way to keep your rear view camera on all the time, it makes passing and turning so much easier.
Depending what you are towing, follow the directions every time carefully! Pay particular attention to making sure the steering wheel will rotate and that the car is not in gear, or that the parking brake is off.
Tying a white cloth to the top of toad's steering wheel will let you see in the rear camera whether the steering wheel is moving.
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12-14-2022, 06:07 PM
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The learning curve will be short the sooner you curb the toad. Once you've done that, you'll know the radius you'll have to take from then on.
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12-14-2022, 06:51 PM
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I start my right hand turn from the far left side of the turn lane I am in.
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12-15-2022, 07:53 AM
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I think the thing that was most important for me to learn when we started many years ago was to keep to the outside of your turning arc and get comfortable with and use your side mirrors when making your turns. Left turns are generally "easier" because the arc is longer going into the farther lane, but you still have to watch your side mirror to assure you are clear. For right turns, the arc is generally shorter, so safely staying to the outside of your arc is important to keep your toad off and the curb and away from any vertical structures, and use that side mirror to assure you have clearance. As others have said, get to an empty parking lot, hook-up your car, set out some cones and learn the turning characteristics of your class C and car. That will go a long way to giving you a good level of comfort when you take your rig out on the street for the first time.
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12-15-2022, 08:02 AM
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Well, after toad’ing for about 4 years - not to mention having toad numerous boats and trailers of all sorts for 50+ years - I clipped a parked vehicle in a Sam’s parking lot last summer with our toad.
It’s easier to watch your driver side than the passenger side. Just make sure you allow plenty of room to vehicles, curbs, and other inanimate objects when making right hand turns.
FWIW - there is a reason why most 18 wheeler trailers have a sign on the back “This truck makes wide turns” to the right - yet generally you won’t see the same for left hand turns (unless you lived in England or other “pass on the right” minded countries.
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12-15-2022, 08:10 AM
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If you have a long overhang behind the rear tires, your toad will track wider then the RVs track.
As you turn right, the hitch will be swinging away from the turn, pulling the toad to the left.
I never had problems making turns on the road. I did, more then once, have the toad hit the curb, I was parked along, if I turned away from it to sharply.
My old class C had a 13 ft overhang.
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12-15-2022, 08:11 AM
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boiledowl-
There are many suggestions one can give, but here are two I found helpful:
1) Learn how your toad appears in your mirrors as you turn in both directions.
2) It takes more care to approach and depart gas pump islands than it does to turn left or right onto a street.
No mentioned yet is an important warning: Avoid backing up when the toad is attached.
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12-15-2022, 09:32 AM
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On a 90 degree turn like coming out of a drive. Our rear axle of the MH will track in about 6 feet and the toad will track in another 3 feet.
But each MH will be different. Its going to depend on the distance from the center point of the rear axle/s and the hitch ball. More distance the more it will pull the toad to track closer to the MH rear axle tracking.
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12-15-2022, 02:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtJoyce
On a 90 degree turn like coming out of a drive. Our rear axle of the MH will track in about 6 feet and the toad will track in another 3 feet.
But each MH will be different. Its going to depend on the distance from the center point of the rear axle/s and the hitch ball. More distance the more it will pull the toad to track closer to the MH rear axle tracking.
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Art,
What's your motorhome length? (I don't see that info on your profile) That might help explain your 6 feet / 3 feet tracking comment. I am discounting the fact that everyone driving their car/truck/suv/etc has to account for where the end of their vehicle needs to be to clear ditches/curbs/other vehicles/etc when making a turn - just as one must do driving their motorhome without a toad.
The OP has a 30 foot Class C. Same length as mine, ok mine is 30.5' but there' is no 6 feet / 3 feet tracking differential between my motorhome and my toad. My toad tracks almost identical to the rear of my motorhome.
I see your point on each mh being different.
Thanks
Chris
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12-16-2022, 07:24 AM
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You have received a lot of great information so far... One thing I haven't seen mentioned is fueling up while on the road with your toad... I assume you have a gas Class C, so be very mindful when choosing your gas pump and gas station... My last coach was a gas Class A, so whenever I fueled up, I always chose the end pump where the rear end of the coach would swing away from the pump when I pulled out.
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12-16-2022, 07:51 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club
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As mentioned the biggest issue for me was fueling up. I usually stay a little farther out from the pump and use the outside island. As far as right turns that was easy with my having a lot of overhang. Have camera on all the time.
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