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I am surprised he couldn't tell it was back there for 2 miles?
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01-27-2015, 12:30 PM
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In the original news video you get a look at the towbar ... it's at about 50 sec. What I don't see is the baseplate-to-towbar pins.
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01-27-2015, 12:32 PM
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With the Roadmaster system on an Equinox that bumper asm is not even used, as it is replaced with the Roadmaster baseplate.
http://www.roadmasterinc.com/pdfinst/3160-1B.pdf
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01-27-2015, 12:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by okgc
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And now you know the reason RoadMaster does it that way!
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01-27-2015, 12:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceisla
Whole lot of assumptions ... it is irrelevant how a baseplate is attached to a CRV. The vehicle in the news was identified as a Chevy Equinox.
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Touché, I was using the CRV as a reference to the fact that Blueox does not attach the baseplate to the bumper. For a better reference, have a look at the instruction to install the baseplate on a Chevy Equinox. Notice how it bolts to the frame from the side.
When you look at the accident photo, it is pretty obvious the bumper was pulled away from the frame flange. Any device designed to tow the car should not have been attached at this point. Regardless of what make of vehicle.
Whomever installed this was not qualified to do so. IMHO
http://blueox.com/Uploads/Docs/BX1689.pdf
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01-27-2015, 12:37 PM
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You can see the "baseplate" in the video, and the image in the story.
They show the towbar at the 50s mark in the video, maybe a Demco Aluminator?
Ahhh Google....
http://demco-products.com/service-an...vrolet-equinox
Not the first one to do this....
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01-27-2015, 12:38 PM
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To me, the really weird part is:
How do you pull an entire baseplate/bumper/shroud off the front of a toad and not mangle the towbar? ... or the back of the RV?
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01-27-2015, 12:38 PM
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Quote:
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And now you know the reason RoadMaster does it that way!
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Yes I do !!!
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01-27-2015, 12:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tderonne
You can see the "baseplate" in the video, and the image in the story.
They show the towbar at the 50s mark in the video, but I don't recognize it... |
It appears to have gold anodized collars on the ends ... can't place it.
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01-27-2015, 12:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tderonne
You can see the "baseplate" in the video, and the image in the story.
They show the towbar at the 50s mark in the video, maybe a Demco Aluminator?
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Hey .... could be ... the gold on the ends and the short boots looks very similar.
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01-27-2015, 12:48 PM
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Quote:
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And now you know the reason RoadMaster does it that way!
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In looking at the Roadmaster instructions, I can see how this incident could happen. IMHO, bolting the baseplate to the bumper flange as shown puts a pulling force on the bolts which would cause them stretch and to loosen and fall out.
If the bolts came loose, and the safety cables had been left off or not installed correctly, the whole works would pull away.
In contrast, Blueox (as far as I know) bolts their baseplate to the sides of the frame making it less prone to bolt failure.
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01-27-2015, 12:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tderonne
You can see the "baseplate" in the video, and the image in the story.
They show the towbar at the 50s mark in the video, maybe a Demco Aluminator?
Ahhh Google....
2010 - 2013 Chevrolet Equinox | Demco Products
Not the first one to do this.... |
That's what I thought several posts ago.
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01-27-2015, 12:52 PM
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It's a older model Demco Excalibar. I have one just like it  !
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01-27-2015, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dennis45
In looking at the Roadmaster instructions, I can see how this incident could happen. IMHO, bolting the baseplate to the bumper flange as shown puts a pulling force on the bolts which would cause them stretch and to loosen and fall out.
If the bolts came loose, and the safety cables had been left off or not installed correctly, the whole works would pull away.
In contrast, Blueox (as far as I know) bolts their baseplate to the sides of the frame making it less prone to bolt failure.
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Look again at the Roadmaster instuctions. A Roadmaster baseplate is bolted to the FRAME also. Same as BlueOX.
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