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Old 03-16-2021, 08:49 AM   #1
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Make sure your TOAD is not in gear!

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Old 03-16-2021, 09:22 AM   #2
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Wow!

I would have hated to be driving behind them with all of that debris on the road.

I wonder which highway it was. I imagine some of the debris is still presenting a hazard to tires.
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Old 03-16-2021, 09:39 AM   #3
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The dealership was located somewhere in Northern Florida.
Thatís one tough, expensive lesson to learn. Feel bad for the guy. Iím assuming insurance wouldnít cover a mistake like that.
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Old 03-16-2021, 12:43 PM   #4
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Bizarre. I once hooked up my last toad (2014) Edge & mistakenly left parking brake on but everything else correct. ISL in my Dutch Star could hardly move it. I immediately knew something was off & stopped & discovered my error. Don't know how this guy didn't feel this was off trying to drag a 5000 Wrangler not in tow mode.
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Old 03-16-2021, 05:39 PM   #5
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Leaving the transmission in gear could easily get the engine turning upwards of 12,000 RPM. If you happened to leave the transfer case in low that could up the engine RPMs to about 35,000 RPM.

Those Wrangler motors (or any other toad motors for that matter) just can't handle that kind of rotational speed.

I personally know of at least one toad fire that was the result of leaving the toad in gear. But it wasn't me.
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Old 03-17-2021, 06:53 AM   #6
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WOW, now you know the rest of the story.




I am surprised the tires didn't just slide and wear out since obviously there weren't rolling.

Back in ~2014 during the time Jeep did the recall on the transfer case I was having a continual problem with mine not wanting to go into neutral. The only solution was to pull the fuse to reset the ECU, I would have to sometime do this multiple times to finally get it in neutral. So we were getting ready to leave from a camping spot and I had to pull the fuse multiple times, meaning I had to open the hood, pull the fuse and try to get the Jeep into neutral. To do this I had to set my park brake multiple times and when I finally got it to go into neutral I forgot to release the park brake and took off. Couldn't even feel that the rear tires were dragging but ultimately the park brake shoes gave loose and wore out while I drove the rig ~200 miles home. When I got home and unhooked the Jeep there were flat spots on both rear tires, I didn't even feel this happening while I drove off, lost of power in these DP's, I had to replace both tires and park brake shoes. Expensive mistake.
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Old 03-17-2021, 06:56 AM   #7
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i Feel for the Owners, a very expensive lesson to learn.

Can only imagine the sick feeling when you come to the realization that your mistake caused this.
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Sad story. Jeep Wranglers are the easiest vehicles to tow 4 down IMO. I assume these people were new to towing 4 down?
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I’m really struggling with the blow by blow timeline of what broke first.

I assume this was an automatic transmission? So the parking pawl was the 1st casualty? The parking Pawl is that piece that keeps the car from rolling off when you put it in park.

I’m used to thinking power flowed from the flywheel to the tires through various valves and clutches which are powered by a hydraulic pump close to the flywheel.

Without the pump being turned by the flywheel how were the clutch packs engaged to supply power in reverse flow to the engine?

Looking at the video I guess it really happened with good grief it’s just hard for me to believe
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Do we know that it was an automatic transmission, the wrangler is still offered in a manual.
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Iím assuming insurance wouldnít cover a mistake like that.



Why would you assume that? Ins policies are explicitly to cover us when we screw up. If you messed up and ran it off the road you would expect the insurance to cover it, no?



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Wow! I am OCD when it comes to making sure my toad is in tow mode. I check it at least three times and usually 4 or 5 before I start rolling.

My coach doesn't even know my 8000# F250 is back there. I can see one of the larger coaches doing that and the driver not realizing something was wrong.
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The Jeep V-6 will redline at 6,700 rpm, but won't hold together at 20,000!
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I am OCD around the tow mode as well. Once I hook up, I have the wife verify that we are rolling correctly. Then I look at the first turn to make sure all wheels are freely turning.

After a couple of days on the road, the toad picks up a lot of road debris. When I start up following and smell it burning off it always freaks me out.
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