To lock or not lock the doors on the 2015 unlimited when flat towing ?

[Chief Alen]

April i find out for sure ... Going to Nappanee, IN .

[FIRE UP]

Originally Posted by twinboat

Most carry a glass punch and pop the windows in a fire or wreck. The lock isn't going to slow a fireman down. Seat belt cutters too.

You should see how quick a locked hood can be opened, when the reliese cable melts.

Well Twinboat,
Obviously I've been on a few vehicle fires in my life and, many of those were fully involved by the time we got to them. And, also, many of them had cable locked hoods. While we carried all kinds of what's called "forcible entry tools", many hoods, even on a vehicle that is fully engulfed in flames, fought us trying to gain entry to the engine compartment due to the fact that the cable housing may have burned but, the cable itself was still quite intact. We'd turn many of those hoods into a pretzel trying to get that hood up to douse the flames.

In some cases, we used what's called a "Pierce nozzle" to simply jamb it right through both the radiator and A/C condenser to shut down the flames without fighting the hood scenario. A pierce nozzle has a seriously sharp tip on it for piercing those kinds of things. It's very similar to what we used in air craft fires where, we could drive right up to an aircraft fire and, simply ram a pierce nozzle right through the skin of the aircraft and subdue the flames without gaining entry to the cabin/passenger area.
Scott

Originally Posted by Bobby F

"Well Bobby F, After over 39 years as a fireman on 4 different fire departments . . . "


I'll defer to you on this, obviously. The context of the comment to me was a bunch of us with trucks towing cars, stopped in a rest area, and the gentleman wandered over and made the comment to us in the course of casual conversation. I just assumed he knew what he was talking about.


Guess not.

BobbyF,
Well, I'm sure he meant well. Different FD personnel from different fire departments across the nation, have different ideas on just how certain things should be done and approached. And, one of the answers above made a comment about punches for glass etc. for forcible entry. Yeah, pretty much nothing's gonna stop us if we really wanted into something. We had more tools than Carter had liver pills.
Scott

[bucks2]

I have a friend that seldom locks his doors to his house. I always lock mine. We're both comfortable with our habits. Who's right? Who cares? If you like your doors locked, do it. If you need statistics, pictures and police reports before you believe someone could take something out of your vehicle being towed, then why do you even have locks or carry keys for them? Thieves are lazy. The longer you keep them out, the less they can take.

As for firemen telling you to leave your toad unlocked? You should have asked him how he disabled the automatic locks on the doors when you're driving. My doors in my cars/trucks lock when I start to move. Does he think that's dangerous too?

And for all you engine guys with your piercing nozzles and pretzel hoods, I've seen your work. Next time just call the truck, we'll open it for you. A good ladderman with a good ax will make you a hole in the hood in 3 good strokes. Tapping a Haligan into the gap midway on the hood and tenting the hood gives a decent access too. But then what do I know, I'm just a big dumb ladder Captain........... ;-)

[doc]

Originally Posted by HJLowell

Sneak thieves ???
Sounds like camp fire bedtime stories to me.
Like the pins being pulled stories.???

Did you observe these sneak thieves ?
Did they steal the towed vehicle ?
Does anyone have pictures. Of these sneak thieves ? Sitting in a towed vehicle ?
Have any sneak thieves been arrested ?
How many ? Where ?
So are they thieves or looking for a ride to the next rest area ? Did they eat someone 's
Doritos after they ( slid in ) ???
Maybe we should.??
But we have never locked the toad.

No Lowell, I was not there, nor did I see it and don't know how many were there. Why the heck would I have pictures?
You sound like someone whizzed in your cornflakes. Why don't you take a break from this forum and go camping or go someplace ?
Do I know this happened? Only what I was told.
Don't lock your doors or for that matter take them off. I was responding to a question someone, with much better manners than you have, asked. I lock the doors on my Jeep and will continue to do so.

[Mr.Goodbar]

Originally Posted by doc

I think we were on I-40 some place and there was a stink about sneak thieves sliding into cars while the owners were on a restroom break. I expect it would follow that it would be easy for a thief to open an unlocked towed door while the owners were in the MH having lunch or on a break. I lock them on my Jeep

2014 Honda CR-V toad. I have to keep the key in the ignition lock in the ACC position which means the doors cannot be locked. We NEVER leave the MH and toad unattended when stopping at a rest area, truck stop, or in a store parking lot. IF we stop to eat at a restaurant or shop and both of us leave, then I turn off the toad ignition, and lock all the doors and, if possible, park where we can see our rig from the restaurant. Our dog stays in the MH and barks at any strange noises, nearby.

[HJLowell]

No big deal Doc
I just wondered if you responded and answered with documented confirmed information .??? Or that it was second or third hand information?
I see that you can't confirm your answer concerning sneak thieves.
Personally
Ive never witnessed such person's hanging at rest areas in any state.

So thank you Doc for clearing the issue up.
And
Happy new years

Originally Posted by doc

No Lowell, I was not there, nor did I see it and don't know how many were there. Why the heck would I have pictures?
You sound like someone whizzed in your cornflakes. Why don't you take a break from this forum and go camping or go someplace ?
Do I know this happened? Only what I was told.
Don't lock your doors or for that matter take them off. I was responding to a question someone, with much better manners than you have, asked. I lock the doors on my Jeep and will continue to do so.

[doorguy]

Our 13 Edge has the push button ignition switch and when the switch is in the accessory position for towing, the doors can't be locked. When we are at a large shopping center, etc., and usually have to park way out there, I turn the switch off and lock the doors. Upon re-entry, I just have to be sure the ignition is in the "accessory" position before we depart.

[Bullitt6283]

I have a non-chip key in the ignition to defeat the steering lock. (That key won't start the engine.)

I always lock the doors. I don't want the RVi3 to grow legs.

Also, I always have locks on the hitch and towbar pins.
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