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01-18-2022, 04:37 PM
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Toad brakes for trailer brake controller?
I have a Redarc Liberty brake controller installed in my rv for my dual axle trailer and it works great. Does anyone make a toad brake actuator that would plug into the 7pin hitch socket that is controlled by the Redarc brake controller? That would sure be an easy (and inexpensive?) setup!
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01-18-2022, 05:02 PM
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I've not heard of one, and it's not a simple thing at the toad end. You still have to have an electro-mechanical module that either pushes on the toad brake pedal or is integrated somehow into the toad hydraulic brake unit like the M&G brake system. It would be a different matter if cars had electric brakes like trailer axles do, but I've not heard of that yet either.
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01-18-2022, 05:24 PM
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Hi Gary, yes, that’s what I meant by an actuator. Some simple electro- mechanical device that pressed on the brake pedal and mounted somehow to the seat. All the control electronics are already in the brake controller.
When I use the brake controller on the dual axle trailer all the trailer has in it is some electro-mechanical device activating the trailer brakes, why not a similar functioning device to control the toad brake pedal…….seems like a simple setup!
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01-18-2022, 07:04 PM
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The trailer has an electromagnet in each wheel that actuates the brake. The more voltage the controller puts to the magnets the more the brakes are applied. Your simplest and cheapest way out may be to use a ready brute tow bar and brake system. Braking is integrated into the tow bar.
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01-18-2022, 07:20 PM
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My boat trailer has Electric over Hyd. Disc Brakes.
Uses this controller. https://www.etrailer.com/Brake-Actua...tar/HBA16.html
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01-19-2022, 08:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy-c
The trailer has an electromagnet in each wheel that actuates the brake. The more voltage the controller puts to the magnets the more the brakes are applied. Your simplest and cheapest way out may be to use a ready brute tow bar and brake system. Braking is integrated into the tow bar.
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yes, very familiar with readybrake, have had one for 10 years, That was not my question though. I’m wondering if any company makes an actuator ( electro mechanical) device that works WITH a installed brake controller and a 7 pin hitch connector.
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01-19-2022, 09:02 AM
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that’s interesting, but would require integration with the toad hydraulic brakes, don’t want to mess with that! Still thinking a simple electro mechanical device between seat and brake pedal controlled by the rv brake controller would be simple and removable when not needed. I get the feeling one does not exist, was just wondering “why not”?
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01-19-2022, 09:20 AM
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Right now there is only one toad brake out there that uses a trailer brake controller, but you have to use their brake controller. It will also work for your trailer.
https://www.brakebuddy.com/stealth.html
I have an old electric toad brake set up that I will be experimenting with, just to see if I can make it work with my Hopkins controller. More of a just for fun project.
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01-19-2022, 09:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PDR John
Right now there is only one toad brake out there that uses a trailer brake controller, but you have to use their brake controller. It will also work for your trailer.
https://www.brakebuddy.com/stealth.html
I have an old electric toad brake set up that I will be experimenting with, just to see if I can make it work with my Hopkins controller. More of a just for fun project.
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Yes, what they call the “main unit” is one way to implement the electro mechanical device I was thinking of. Interesting that they add a vacuum pump to the system, I’m sure this greatly reduces the force required by the “main unit”. The readybrake system I have does not require a vacuum pump as the hydraulic hitch connector generates a lot of force. I’m not wild about the “main unit” design and installation but that is one way to do it! Thanks for the link!
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