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04-08-2015, 08:13 PM
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Toad braking system
Has anyone had a problem with finding a braking system for a 2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid we found a Brake Buddy Stealth and Inisibrake that said they would work. Please anyone that can help please let me know because we just bought the car and our rv dealer said it wouldn't work. Thanks in advance...Bob
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04-08-2015, 08:54 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Good luck with a solution with your situation.
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04-08-2015, 09:03 PM
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Bob,
What are they telling you is the reason the Brake Buddy won't work? I have a similar Blue Ox Patriot and it is supposed to work with just about any type of car as long as you have 12v present and can hook the clamp to the brake pedal.
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04-08-2015, 10:47 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobalulu
Has anyone had a problem with finding a braking system for a 2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid we found a Brake Buddy Stealth and Inisibrake that said they would work. Please anyone that can help please let me know because we just bought the car and our rv dealer said it wouldn't work. Thanks in advance...Bob
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The RVI brake system will work with both active and vacuum brakes so it should work with the hybrid. You can contact the manufacturer direct to make sure.
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04-09-2015, 06:29 AM
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I installed an Invisibrake system on my 2014 Fusion Hybrid last year and it works fine.
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04-09-2015, 06:34 AM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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The dealer does not wish to deal with the posibility it will not work
There is one system I know of that might NOT work..M&G,,all the others should work on every car mad.
More important is that not all cars can be towed 4-DOWN.. I do not know about yours.. This has nothing to do with brakes and everything to do with transmission and drive train.
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04-16-2015, 03:19 PM
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Monaco Owners Club Holiday Rambler Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wa8yxm
There is one system I know of that might NOT work..M&G,,all the others should work on every car mad.
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I wouldn't be so generous with that statement. Not every brake system will work properly with every toad. I'm not sure if there is such a thing as a truly universal brake system.
First off, yes, the M&G has a restricted range of applicable toads because there must be room to move the master cylinder several inches away from the brake booster in order to install the actuator between them. It won't physically fit on some toads.
But even more generic braking systems can have trouble with some toads. Many systems are designed to press against a dead brake pedal that has no power assist. Standard vacuum boosters will bleed off their assist after a few firm brake activations, and many systems rely on this. However, some vehicles use electrically activated boost systems that are still active even when the ignition is off. These systems will provide brake boost for all activations while being towed, not just the first few. If a braking system designed for a dead pedal is used on such a vehicle, it will overdrive the brake pedal and try to lock up the toad brakes every time, even with a gentle stop. Not a good situation.
Other systems will require that the power brakes are always active, and will provide a vacuum source to keep them active. But if the booster is not vacuum activated, the power boost might not be available. Such a combination will result in ineffective braking. Also not a good situation.
Some other systems may not physically fit for a variety of reasons (like they need a certain structure under the seat that is not there.)
You can't make a general statement like that, there are always exceptions.
"All generalizations are false, including this one." -- Mark Twain
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04-30-2015, 11:34 PM
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Had Roadmaster in Vancouver, Washington install the EZ5 base plates and invisibrake system in our 2015 Ford Fusion Titanium Hybrid on April 15th. They did a great job and works perfectly though only towed 50 miles from factory to our home. Nice install and braking system is totally out of sight and requires zero setup. Any question just call Roadmaster. Great to work with on the phone.
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04-30-2015, 11:39 PM
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Per Owners Manual Hybrid can be towed 4 down. Tows very well behind a 2013 Mercedes Diesel. Itasca Navion IQ 24G
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04-30-2015, 11:50 PM
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Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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RoadMaster also has a " brake pressure reducer" for the system if yours has an "active" braking system..
Their "InvisiBrake" system works just fine as is in the "active" braking systems.
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