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Old 10-18-2023, 09:39 PM   #1
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Towing 2022-2023 Bronco as a toad

I’m seeing some people complaining about problems towing the new Ford Bronco 4 down. Blown transmissions seem to be happening.
Anyone here experiencing problems with the new Bronco?
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Best to do a forum search as well as seek out the Bronco 6G forum. The problem seems to be sporadic with no definitive reason for what failures have happened, just theories. Some folks have no issues at all.

My reason for buying a used car specifically as a toad and continue to drive my Bronco as a daily.
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Yes, it happened to us.
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Yes, it happened to us.


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I think if you read thru the Bronco 6G forum you will see there is a problem with Ford and plenty of reason to avoid the Bronco as a toad. Same goes for the Ranger which is built in the same facility.
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Works good 4 me

Have about 3 thousand miles on a 2023 Bronco no problems with the Bronco go into flat tow mode and out like a dream.
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We flat towed our 2023 Bronco from Cali to Texas with only overnight stops. When we got to Texas, I got out and smelled burning fluid. I get into the Bronco to park it and its battery is dead.

I called AAA and had them jump the Bronco. I then tried moving it to a parking space and it was lurching and shifting very hard. The local dealer in Texas couldn’t even look at it as they had a 3 month back log for transmission issues.

We left Texas to visit relatives in Oklahoma. Once there, the local dealer said they had a 2 month back log for transmission issues. I pleaded with them to at least check the transmission fluid to see if that was the issue.

Well, after 2 days they told me that the transmission had a catastrophic failure and they weren’t sure if it would be covered under warranty.

Another 2-½ weeks go by and I was advised that it would be covered under warranty, but they were trying to place blame on my AF1 braking system causing the problem.Then they tried to say I didn’t put it in flat tow mode correctly (which was rebuked when they looked it up in the onboard computer)

I decided to get FMC involved and opened up a case with them.

Long story short, a high level technician in Detroit told me that when the Bronco battery voltage drops below a certain voltage, the flat tow feature disables and the vehicle goes from Neutral to Park.

After repair, they wanted us to rent a trailer and tow the Bronco home on that. Well that didn’t happen. I flat towed it all the way back to California making sure I started the Bronco every night.

Once I got home, I had my tech wire in a battery charge line from the Bus. We’ve taken a couple of trips since then and we haven’t had any issues.
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Thank you for that very detailed explanation!!! Seems like it is necessary to wire in a 12v supply to the Bronco battery.
Good to know!!!
I have read most all of the posts on the bronco 6G forum, and have not noticed a common denominator in all incidents, YET!
I will keep hunting!
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I have been flat towing cars for at least 8 years, when I first started with a Jeep Cherokee Trail blazer, I towed it for 5 day straight getting from California to Indiana and when I arrived my battery was dead. Jeeps had a stabilizer circuit that would drain the battery so I installed a charging line from the coach and I have done that for every vehicle since than so when I say that I have towed a Bronco for 3,000 miles and not a problem I do have a charge line on it guess I thought I was the only one that did not know.

When I said no problem with flat towing the Bronco that did not include the issue I had with a bad weld on my baseplate that broke while towing.
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Looks like Ford has identified the problem & the repair needed, hopefully!!!

https://m.carcomplaints.com/Ford/Bro...sm-51415.shtml

I still think a charging line from the MH is a good idea!
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Looks like Ford has identified the problem & the repair needed, hopefully!!!

https://m.carcomplaints.com/Ford/Bro...sm-51415.shtml

I still think a charging line from the MH is a good idea!
That does not address the issue. Folks are having transmission failures when in neutral tow mode ultimately requiring a transmission replacement.
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TSA title is a little confusing.

The TSA text is below. It talks about TRANSMISSION cooling.



Ford TSB #SSM 51415
2023 FORD BRONCO
Affected Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
DATE PUBLISHED
MAR 07, 2023
NHTSA TSB #
10233688
TSB Document
MC-10233688-0001.pdf
Summary
Customers who neutral (4-wheel flat) tow a 2021-2022 Bronco equipped with a 2.7L engine or a 2022-2023 Bronco Raptor may report an inconsistent brake assist when a supplemental braking system has been installed. This may result from supplemental brake system set-up that does not account for the vehicles anti-lock brake (ABS) module entering sleep mode after a pre-determined period of time following vehicle shut-down. This functionality was necessary to prevent a battery drain from occurring. Enhanced software has been developed to keep the ABS module in a consistent sleep state when the vehicle enters neutral tow mode. For vehicles that meet this criterion, reprogram the ABS module using the latest software level of the Ford Diagnosis and Repair System (FDRS) scan tool. For claiming, use casual part 2C219.
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TSA title is a little confusing.

The TSA text is below. It talks about TRANSMISSION cooling.



Ford TSB #SSM 51415
2023 FORD BRONCO
Affected Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
DATE PUBLISHED
MAR 07, 2023
NHTSA TSB #
10233688
TSB Document
MC-10233688-0001.pdf
Summary
Customers who neutral (4-wheel flat) tow a 2021-2022 Bronco equipped with a 2.7L engine or a 2022-2023 Bronco Raptor may report an inconsistent brake assist when a supplemental braking system has been installed. This may result from supplemental brake system set-up that does not account for the vehicles anti-lock brake (ABS) module entering sleep mode after a pre-determined period of time following vehicle shut-down. This functionality was necessary to prevent a battery drain from occurring. Enhanced software has been developed to keep the ABS module in a consistent sleep state when the vehicle enters neutral tow mode. For vehicles that meet this criterion, reprogram the ABS module using the latest software level of the Ford Diagnosis and Repair System (FDRS) scan tool. For claiming, use casual part 2C219.
I read the text. It doesn't address transmissions being trashed with no ability to move the Bronco after being flat towed. I know about the electronic brake boosting issue that this addresses. The trashed transmissions happen with either engine, so the 2.3L is included. Oh and some folks have no issues while others do. There is no smoking gun identified yet.
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ABSOLUTELY AGREE!
My point is this MIGHT BE one piece of the puzzle.
I can’t imagine Ford, ever stating the catastrophic failure of the transmission is caused by this programming issue, but it seems like this issue may be a part of the problem.
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