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Old 06-02-2017, 03:42 PM   #43
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A lot of our Camping group who have Gas units and 5,000 lbs capacity are very happy with the Honda CR-V. But as stated above if it doesn't say it in writing in the owners manual don't believe anyone on their say so.
My rig has a 15,000 tow limit and the CR-V tows great. Talk about not knowing it's there!
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That is why states have laws about break-away brakes on trailers and a toad in tow is a trailer.
Not always true. In WA, OR and CA towing a motorized vehicle behind another motorized vehicle changes the laws on supplemental braking. The two together become a "combination" vehicle and brakes are not universally required if you can stop from XX feet in XX MPH. WA and CA are the same and OR is slightly more stringent.
BUT, then WA adds a requirement that you have a break away system that can hold the towed on any normal highway grade for 15 min when disconnected. So, I can easily pass the braking requirement but still need a braking system to pass the last requirement.
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Have 2017 Fleetwood Southwind and want to tow a vehicle 4-down. Pulled up beside another Fleetwood in AZ towing a manual Xmission Kia Soul. Am wondering how that would work? What modifications necessary? It is a light vehicle. Is it too light? Yes, could buy Jeep Cherokee which is equipped, but you still need to install towing plate, electric hook up. (those hooks in front are mis-leading--not for towing behind MH.) Chevy Equinox allows 4 down, but you still need to install equipment. So, if I tow Soul, do I have to install Drivetrain cooler, electrical bypass, pull fuses?? Sure could use some help.
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Have 2017 Fleetwood Southwind and want to tow a vehicle 4-down. Pulled up beside another Fleetwood in AZ towing a manual Xmission Kia Soul. Am wondering how that would work? What modifications necessary? It is a light vehicle. Is it too light? Yes, could buy Jeep Cherokee which is equipped, but you still need to install towing plate, electric hook up. (those hooks in front are mis-leading--not for towing behind MH.) Chevy Equinox allows 4 down, but you still need to install equipment. So, if I tow Soul, do I have to install Drivetrain cooler, electrical bypass, pull fuses?? Sure could use some help.
You may want to start with Motorhome Magazine's Toad Guide found here:
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However, I've found them wrong a few times (i.e. either missing info or simply incorrect). The final say should be either Kia's internet site/representative or the owner's manual. If you search on "Kia toad guide", lots of people do indeed tow the 6-speed manual. But if Kia doesn't officially ok that, there could be a warranty issue.
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I tow 2014 Honda CRV and love it. I always use brake assist system, started with brake buddy. But I was not to happy with it, too many steps to setup. But the biggest issue was sensitivity level for towing my Honda. According to the manual for CRV weight set the sensitivity level between 40-45PSI. I set mine at the lower end just below 40psil (38-39). At this setting didn't have any problem stopping, but after getting home form our last trip, I discovered a major brake overheating on all 4 wheels. Had the dealership check out the bakes, no issues, it all pointed to brake buddy. Called Brake buddy tech support, was told that I followed the steps correctly, however the table is not a good guide for Honda CRV. He said, since Honda CRV has a very sensitive brake system I should set the sensitivity level between 25-35psi not what is listed in the manual, the table in the manual is for guidelines only "REALLY"
long and short of it, didn't want to take another chance, after replacing rotors and pad on all 4 wheels, sold the brake buddy, installed M&G braking system. Short set up, just plug in the airline from coach to car, no adjustment necessary.
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How does the emergency break away work without brakes?
I thought that comment might generate some questions or (possibly a debate). That was not my intention... it's​ just how I've rolled since I started towing 4 flat in '01.
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this is like talking about children, everyone thinks his/hers are better than anyone else's .

i won't be an exception . i like my c-max energi. it's quiet, tall, big head room, heavy, sturdy, smooth handling, plus dinghy towable.

these were taken just now:





notice my trip 190.8 mi only consumed 0.52 gallon fuel, resulting in 364.3 mpg. per our normal driving habit, that's pretty much about it. the sweetest thing behind it - all the energy was from sun! i plug the charger to my solar system, 5-6 hours later the battery is full, capable of 28 miles .
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